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    • #67981
      kalinowski
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      I’ve checked the temp gage on my W58 with an infrared unit and found it to be off by 15 degrees. I want to replace both the gage and sensing unit. After checking the online sources, I am confused (not hard). Is what I want a temp SENDER or a temp SWITCH?

      I am making the assumption that the temp SWITCH is part of a system that includes an audible buzzer that sounds when the thing is close to overheating. I also assume that the temp SENDER just gives a readout on the temp gage without a buzzer. My boat does not presently have a temp buzzer alarm.

      What would be the correct selection?

      Dan Kalinowskli
      Lady Leanne II (#135)
      Honolulu

    • #75217
      petedd
      Participant

      Your sender must be matched to your gauge, in the sense that there are
      different resistance slopes for various brands of gauges.

      On 4/27/2010 9:38 AM, kalinowski wrote:

      I’ve checked the temp gage on my W58 with an infrared unit and found it to be off by 15 degrees. I want to replace both the gage and sensing unit. After checking the online sources, I am confused (not hard). Is what I want a temp SENDER or a temp SWITCH?

      I am making the assumption that the temp SWITCH is part of a system that includes an audible buzzer that sounds when the thing is close to overheating. I also assume that the temp SENDER just gives a readout on the temp gage without a buzzer. My boat does not presently have a temp buzzer alarm.

      What would be the correct selection?

      Dan Kalinowskli
      Lady Leanne II (#135)
      Honolulu

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    • #75219
      madsailor
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      On the W58 there are two temp and two oil switches – the switches are for
      the alarms, low oil press and high temp. The gauge sending unit needs to be
      matched to the gauge so expect to spend about 100 bucks to replace both from
      a NAPA or someplace like that. They’ll have replacement senders. I used a
      VDO guage and sender to replace my oil switch and sender.

      Just take the old ones in and let them look… You could also spend three
      times the amount and get westerbeke parts…

      Bob

      On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 11:38 AM, kalinowski <>wrote:

      I’ve checked the temp gage on my W58 with an infrared unit and found it to
      be off by 15 degrees. I want to replace both the gage and sensing unit.
      After checking the online sources, I am confused (not hard). Is what I
      want a temp SENDER or a temp SWITCH?

      I am making the assumption that the temp SWITCH is part of a system that
      includes an audible buzzer that sounds when the thing is close to
      overheating. I also assume that the temp SENDER just gives a readout on the
      temp gage without a buzzer. My boat does not presently have a temp buzzer
      alarm.

      What would be the correct selection?

      Dan Kalinowskli
      Lady Leanne II (#135)
      Honolulu

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    • #75220
      petedd
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      I am a fan of the VDO cockpit series of gauges. These are available at
      very good prices via mailorder (including ebay). You order the senders
      separately. You can even get a dual sender that has oil pressure sender
      and low pressure switch in one. I have used this series of gauges on a
      race car, two restorations, and my boat and can vouch for their quality,
      reliability, and accuracy. Hmmm, come to think of it, my new engine
      comes with a new gauge set so I have a full panel with VDO temp and OP
      gauges and their senders (and tach) coming up for sale. Let me know if
      that would help you out.

      Pete

      On 4/27/2010 3:46 PM, Robert Fine wrote:

      On the W58 there are two temp and two oil switches – the switches are for
      the alarms, low oil press and high temp. The gauge sending unit needs to be
      matched to the gauge so expect to spend about 100 bucks to replace both from
      a NAPA or someplace like that. They’ll have replacement senders. I used a
      VDO guage and sender to replace my oil switch and sender.

      Just take the old ones in and let them look… You could also spend three
      times the amount and get westerbeke parts…

      Bob

      On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 11:38 AM, kalinowski<>wrote:

      I’ve checked the temp gage on my W58 with an infrared unit and found it to
      be off by 15 degrees. I want to replace both the gage and sensing unit.
      After checking the online sources, I am confused (not hard). Is what I
      want a temp SENDER or a temp SWITCH?

      I am making the assumption that the temp SWITCH is part of a system that
      includes an audible buzzer that sounds when the thing is close to
      overheating. I also assume that the temp SENDER just gives a readout on the
      temp gage without a buzzer. My boat does not presently have a temp buzzer
      alarm.

      What would be the correct selection?

      Dan Kalinowskli
      Lady Leanne II (#135)
      Honolulu

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    • #75221
      kalinowski
      Participant

      If gage and sender are mated electrically, then I will buy Westerbeke for both. Thanks

      Dan Kalinowski
      Lady Leanne II (#135)
      Honolulu

    • #75222
      madsailor
      Moderator

      You can do the same with VDO for much less money. There is another gauge
      manufacturer whose name I can’t remember. But they’re all good. Westerbeke
      uses a common manufacturer – then they put their name on it, or not.

      They’re nothing special.

      Bob

      On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 7:17 PM, kalinowski <>wrote:

      If gage and sender are mated electrically, then I will buy Westerbeke for
      both. Thanks

      Dan Kalinowski
      Lady Leanne II (#135)
      Honolulu

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    • #225891
      Eduardo Acosta
      Participant

      Hello team,

      So my #144 does not seem to have a buzzer alarm for LoP and High WT. It is an original W58 with what appears to be the “Admiral” version of the panel where there is a remote panel in the cockpit for Start,Stop and heat. I looked for the buzzer everywhere and it is simply not there maybe it didn’t come with this version at all not sure.

      Anyhow I would like to buy the buzzer alarm and wire it to the switches am just interested in knowing for those that do have this buzzer could I get a pix of how the wires come out of the water and oil switches in the engine ?. Just not clear on how they mate electrically to the wires.

      Thanks much !

    • #225927
      RichCarter
      Participant

      Attached, please find the manual for the original alarm system installed by the factory for my 424. The bell was mounted in the port lazarette on the forward bulkhead.

      Attachments:
      1. aqualarm.pdf

    • #225931
      RichCarter
      Participant

      While I’m at it, attached is a copy of the original owner’s manual for anyone who doesn’t have one. The book came with a plain blue front and back cover in heavy paper. The first page was a double-sided color photo, attached. Following pages were printed on one side. The book was bound in as a spiral notebook.

      Attachments:
      1. ownersManual.pdf

    • #225934
      RichCarter
      Participant

      Second attachment

      Attachments:
      1. Owners-manual-cover.pdf

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