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Fellow P424 Aficionados,
It is not without a great deal of thought that I write this note, but I feel that this might be the right time for it (given the degree to which the site has stabilized of late). YMMV (Your Mileage May Vary). We’re experiencing some ownership transitions, and for those that are giving up their beloved vessels to the next generation of owners, I salute your stewardship. Thank you for all you have shared with us, and for preserving your Pearson’s for their new owners! I wish you all speedy sales to good people (who we will welcome here!)
On to business:
After all of our development, bug fixes, etc, our site does cost money, around $25 per month for hosting (all that email!!) and around $100 to keep our developer on hand in case anything comes up (and it has, in spades, from time-to-time). So all told, about $1300 a year or so.
At this point, the ongoing costs of the site fall on me (barring $10 a month from one owner who has set up a PayPal subscription), and I would like to ask you to consider contributing to this cost. While I am not asking for a handout, I am asking for you to consider the value you receive from the site. The donate button is on the header of the site. I also want to make clear that this is optional and anonymous.
I’d like to thank you all for making this such a useful site. It is an honor and a privilege to serve you all. As always, I welcome suggestions as to how we can improve our community.
Fair winds _/)
Ewan
Site AdminPS: This is the only request of this kind I am going to make this year!
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Touching, but you didn’t mention the multiple sailboat insurance companies you sold my email address to in your plea for money. While I have absolutely no problem donating to a worthy cause, I’m troubled that you right after you reached around and sold my information, you can, metaphorically speaking, have the gall to look me in the face and ask for money.Chris Olsen
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Christian,
We have never, ever, sold any customer information.Period.We never, ever will.I am curious where you obtained this information – Iâd be happy to help investigate what happened. We have always been community supported and your information is supposed to be safe within our group.EwanWe never will. We are a
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Christian believes that his information has been sold to insurance companies.If anyone here feels that this has happened, please respond to this email. We have not, nor will we ever sell or give our member information to anyone, for any purpose.It would be really good to get to the bottom of this.Site Admin -
Chris,
That’s a pretty severe accusation. Ewan has busted his butt and his wallet for all of us for a long time, now. Unless you have incontrovertible proof that he sold your email address for profit, you owe him an apology – and also your fair-share contribution towards the costs of the website and forum, along with everyone else reading this.
So, what proof do you have that he sold your email address? (Hint: Getting spammed at chris.olsen06484@gmail.com does not constitute proof of collusion, only of hacking.)
Tor
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I have not received any unusual emails that would indicate that the mailing
list was ever sold.Rudy JanisNakedmoonIn a message dated 3/7/2017 5:02:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
ewanoleary@gmail.com writes:All,
Christian believes that his information has been sold to insurance
companies.If anyone here feels that this has happened, please respond to this
email. We have not, nor will we ever sell or give our member information to
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No one has tried to sell me insurance, and i am sure my email address gives no suggestion to location…..so its not a Welsh thing!!!In fact, i am almost offended that no one feels the worth in insuring my Pearson 424….i just cleaned it too!!My junk mail continues to be offers to increase my sexual performance and the size of my love length but once i have told my mother to stop worrying about me that mail bag should reduce in size…Happy days.
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I have several email accounts and only use this address for the group mail. I have never received anything other then group messages. It is completely spam free. Had the information been shared I would know something had happened.
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A few closing comments:
– Since I have my own domain, I can (and do) set up exclusive email addresses for all kinds of things. My address here, 424@silverheels.us, is unique to this group. No one else has ever seen it outside of this group. If it were compromised, I’d know in an instant that the 424 database had been hacked – or that one of you owners was peddling our emails 😉 Obviously, knowing Ewan, I’d never consider any other possibility. Anyway, I can say absolutely my email address has been safe here.
– Juniper83, if you’re getting that many spam emails, plunk down $30 a year for SpamArrest. I used to get up to 400 spams a day (!). I signed up with them and the spam dropped to less than 1 a month.
– Regarding you all supporting this forum, Ewan, you’re way too nice. Me, I’m naturally cantankerous when I feel it’s warranted. I tried to help you with this issue a couple of years ago, a few sensitive children here were offended, and you backed off and have been carrying the full burden ever since. Now, I’m outta’ here soon, so it’s not my problem anymore, but all of you who will continue to own 424’s and to benefit from this great forum, shame on you for leaving it all on this one, way-too-nice guy. And kudos to those of you who have stepped up to the plate.
And that’s all I’ll say about that. For now.
Good luck,
Tor
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We have gotten no adds from insurance companies that I know of. I will keep an eye out.
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Tor,Thanks so much. I should clarify that I was describing the number of promotional emails I get (like the insurance promotions mentioned).As far as actual spam (IE emails about large Swiss bank accounts that I have been found to be a benefactor of, ads for online pharmacies selling viagra, etc) I get very little of that. Gmail actually does a great job identifying and weeding out real spam and even places promotional emails in a separate folder.My point was just that unwanted emails (promotional or spam) are quite common these days, and determining how a company or spam server got your email can be extremely difficult if not impossible.While I’ve only posted a few times on here, I highly value this website and community and I can absolutely be counted on for its continued support.
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Hello all,I find the information on the website to very valuable. It helps me solve problems on my P424 and also gives me lots of ideas to modify my boat ( a boat I have owned for 24 years. I would like to donate but (call me old fashioned) I am not a great fan of giving out credit card numbers on the internet. For myself and others who might feel the same… is there a snail mail address where I could mail a donation?? ThanksBobFolly II, P424 #131
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I have received no spam that I can trace back to the 424 mail list. I recently had an issue with a virus on my machine that caused me to go down a rabbit-hole. Iâm very careful when browsing but still somehow got one. I updated my virus protection and ran into a compatibility problem with acrobat reader that caused my machine to run slowly and crash regularly. After weeks of trying different virus protection packages I finally tossed Acrobat Reader and installed a substitute. All is well now. I guess the moral here is that no matter how knowledgeable and careful we are, we can get a virus. If any one of us gets a virus it is possible for our email contacts to be stolen and distributed. Since several of us have reported no spam issues, I doubt the 424 mailing list is the culprit.
Rich
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If no one else on the site has experienced these issues then I must apologize. I haven’t given this email address to anyone nautically minded in quite some months. Then to receive three unsolicited boat insurance pitches, Global Marine, BoatUS and United Marine, in the few days between giving my information and waiting for approval from the admin, seemed highly suspicious to me. Again, it appears this situation appears to be an issue only with my email address and I unfairly jumped to a conclusion. My apologies.
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Chris,Perhaps this link is informative about gmail does scanning of email for targeted advertising. But if you are concerned about ads, perhaps use a different email provider than gmail is advisable. Same thing for goes for yahoo email as well, I think.https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/technology/2014/apr/15/gmail-scans-all-emails-new-google-terms-clarify
Respectfully,
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Thank you everyone for your support and words of encouragement. I appreciate very much the enthusiasm we have for our community, and the passion we have for our venerable good old boats.
I am interested in organizing a Summer meet up or two, possibly East Coast and West Coast locations. I will send out an announcement to gauge interest shortly.
Once again, thank you for making this such a positive, helpful and engaged community.
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Dear friends!
Thank you to the 13 generous people who have contributed so far – I will be removing the PayPal button on Sunday this weekend, so this is your last opportunity to support the site this year. Any support is greatly appreciated.
Once again, no obligation. If you find this useful and can spare a contribution, go for it.
For those who are wanting a mailing address to mail a check, please contact me on info@pearson424.org.
Thanks!
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