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I just discovered a new truth, “If you don't have the part on-board no inventory application is going to find it for you.”
Last night my generator shut down. I discovered no seawater coming out the exhaust. So I waited until this morning to climb into the locker and remove the old impeller. I think I got my $.25 out of this sucker (see pic). That impeller was in the generator when I purchased Sarah.
All I needed was to get my hands one of the two spare impeller kits I knew I had on board. So I fired up the workbook and searched for impeller. Got 2 finds, both for the Yanmar 4Jh4AE engine. I tried several different search options – still nothing for the genset.
Finally i resorted to the standby procedure – opening all of the lockers and pulling out all of the contents. No genset impeller!!!!It finally dawned on me where my genset parts are – in the trunk of my car in Lexington Park, MD. Over the winter before the Yanmar was installed I moved the contents the cockpit and aft cabin lockers to either the trunk of my car or the marina dockhouse. Apparently they never made it back onboard. So when I developed the Inventory Workbook and inventoried the contents of all of Sarah's lockers the genset parts did not get picked up.
So now I have ordered the part through the Nothern Lights dealer in Nassau at a price that hasn't been determined. The Bahamas charges 45% duty on all boat parts shipped to foreign-registered boat. In addition I'll have to pay to have the part air-freighted from Nassau to Marsh Harbor. This is a very expensive lesson.
I had planned to leave for Eleuthera tomorrow, but now I have to stick around in Marsh Harbor through the weekend waiting for my part.
Just in case all of this has generated a lot of sympathy for my situation, I've also attached a pic of Marsh Harbor, taken 2 days ago. There are worse places to be stuck waiting on a part.
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John Stevenson
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Bah! That impeller’s got another half circumnav of life left in it! Duct tape and crazy glue will fix that right up.
On 1/8/09 12:25 PM, John Stevenson wrote :
I just discovered a new truth, “If you don’t have the part on-board no inventory application is going to find it for you.”
Last night my generator shut down. I discovered no seawater coming out the exhaust. So I waited until this morning to climb into the locker and remove the old impeller. I think I got my $.25 out of this sucker (see pic). That impeller was in the generator when I purchased Sarah.
All I needed was to get my hands one of the two spare impeller kits I knew I had on board. So I fired up the workbook and searched for impeller. Got 2 finds, both for the Yanmar 4Jh4AE engine. I tried several different search options – still nothing for the genset.
Finally i resorted to the standby procedure – opening all of the lockers and pulling out all of the contents. No genset impeller!!!!It finally dawned on me where my genset parts are – in the trunk of my car in Lexington Park, MD. Over the winter before the Yanmar was installed I moved the contents the cockpit and aft cabin lockers to either the trunk of my car or the marina dockhouse. Apparently they never made it back onboard. So when I developed the Inventory Workbook and inventoried the contents of all of Sarah’s lockers the genset parts did not get picked up.
So now I have ordered the part through the Nothern Lights dealer in Nassau at a price that hasn’t been determined. The Bahamas charges 45% duty on all boat parts shipped to foreign-registered boat. In addition I’ll have to pay to have the part air-freighted from Nassau to Marsh Harbor. This is a very expensive lesson.
I had planned to leave for Eleuthera tomorrow, but now I have to stick around in Marsh Harbor through the weekend waiting for my part.
Just in case all of this has generated a lot of sympathy for my situation, I’ve also attached a pic of Marsh Harbor, taken 2 days ago. There are worse places to be stuck waiting on a part.
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Hi John-
Our little Kubota DC genset crapped out here in Vero Beach, and the local turned a small problem into a large one. We are going with what appears to be a common remedy. For the price of two service calls, we are getting a Honda generator. They appear to be everywhere down here. Their gentle hum is a complimentary background to the ever present “no-see-um” bugs.
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Hi, Quent.
Well I'm still working the parts issue. I received my impeller kits from Nassau today – wrong impellers. Apparently NL switched raw water pumps a while back. I'm waiting to hear back from Nassau if the old impellers are still available. If not I may be into a new pump.While I was in Vero, the boat I was rafted to just got a new Honda. The guy who sells them must be doing well. When do you plan on leaving VB? Looks like I'll be here a little longer. If i have to go to a new pump I may go to the local boatyard and have their mechanic do the work.
A strong front is coming through this evening, probably going through VB this afternoon. Marsh Harbor fills up whenever the wind goes over 15 kts. It has the best holding ground in the Abacos and is well protected. Problem is I know have another boat anchored less than 50' off my bow. Hope he doesn't drag tonight.
John
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 9:13 AM, quent < ([email][/email])> wrote:
Hi John-
Our little Kubota DC genset crapped out here in Vero Beach, and the local turned a small problem into a large one. We are going with what appears to be a common remedy. For the price of two service calls, we are getting a Honda generator. They appear to be everywhere down here. Their gentle hum is a complimentary background to the ever present “no-see-um” bugs.
Quent
Lying Vero Beach, eventually bound for Abacos—
Regards,
John Stevenson
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I’m in the process of beefing up and adding to Silver Heels’ recharging systems. This being a (relatively) chilly, (very) rainy day here in NE Florida, I decided to sit by the heater and figure out what electricity is likely to cost me once I take off cruising full-time on Silver Heels. Here’s what I came up with. Would be interested to hear other opinions.
$ 200 Honda EU2000iA portable generator depreciation: $1,000 / 5 year lifespan
200 Generator gasoline: 1.5 cups/hr x 400 hrs/yr = 40 gal x $5/gal
100 Battery charger depreciation: $1,000 / 10 year lifespan
100 Alternator/regulator depreciation: $500 / 5 year lifespan
100 Wind generator depreciation: $1,000 / 10 year lifespan
100 Solar panels depreciation: $1,000 / 10 year lifespan
+ 200 Batteries depreciation: $1,000 / 5 year lifespan
$1,000 Total estimated annual cost of electricity
What do you think? Am I close? What did I forget?
Tor
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Hi Tor,
The generator is less than $900 with shipping online. I have one and love it. Oil changes are messy at best, a horror show at worst. Fortunately, they're far between. Bring lots of absorbent pads.
Other than that, it's probably close – I have never thought of it that way as I'm paying as I go. Whatever it costs, it costs. If I can't afford it now then I'll seek another avenue for what I'm trying to do.
You probably won't run the generator 400 hours a year. Remember, you're using the engine quite a bit even though you hope not to. A better way to calculate this would be to figure out your electricity budget then using standard assumptions like the solar panels providing 1/3 their output on average for 8 hours a day, wind generator providing 1/3 it's rated capacity 24 hours a day, and the generator or alternator providing the rest of the power.
You may find that the budget you've considered isn't enough or is too much. Changing your lighting to LED's, for instance, allows you to read at night without worry, use your anchor light and consume an amp a night.
I think you'll find you run your generator more to heat the water or watch TV than anything else. From personal experience, I find my power usage cruising naturally decreases, but that may not be true in southern climes where nighttime temperatures are not comfortable.
For instance, when I was living on a mooring, I could easily go a full work week without the generator or engine running. That included a small (35 qt) portable refrigerator but not the big ships one.
Well, that's all I have to say about that. I hope to meet you on the water next winter and we'll share electrifying stories…
Bob
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Silver Heels < ([email][/email])> wrote:
Quote:I'm in the process of beefing up and adding to Silver Heels' recharging systems. This being a (relatively) chilly, (very) rainy day here in NE Florida, I decided to sit by the heater and figure out what electricity is likely to cost me once I take off cruising full-time on Silver Heels. Here's what I came up with. Would be interested to hear other opinions.$ 200 Honda EU2000iA portable generator depreciation: $1,000 / 5 year lifespan
200 Generator gasoline: 1.5 cups/hr x 400 hrs/yr = 40 gal x $5/gal
100 Battery charger depreciation: $1,000 / 10 year lifespan
100 Alternator/regulator depreciation: $500 / 5 year lifespan
100 Wind generator depreciation: $1,000 / 10 year lifespan
100 Solar panels depreciation: $1,000 / 10 year lifespan
+ 200 Batteries depreciation: $1,000 / 5 year lifespan
$1,000 Total estimated annual cost of electricity
What do you think? Am I close? What did I forget?
Tor
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I too have a small Honda generator. I wanted to know where most folks keep the gas on the boat. I remember seeing outboard tanks stored in the anchor locker on one boat. I’ve seen generators stored in the shower. With the fumes from gasoline where is the safest place to store the gas cans and the small generator?
Linus
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HI Linus,
I store my gasoline in the cockpit next to the generator between the mizzen and binnacle. I'm not crazy about storing it in lockers. If I had a 5 gallon can, I'd store it on deck behind the life raft.
Bob
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Linus Martinez < ([email][/email])> wrote:
Quote:I too have a small Honda generator. I wanted to know where most folks keep the gas on the boat. I remember seeing outboard tanks stored in the anchor locker on one boat. I've seen generators stored in the shower. With the fumes from gasoline where is the safest place to store the gas cans and the small generator?Linus
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We also have a Honda 2000. We keep it in a clear plastic tote box (got it from Walmart – its a perfect fit, brand name = Sterilite) between the mizzen and binnacle. The tote is upside down over top of the generator. Gives you a place to sit things and would protect it from minor spills and splashes. It has never moved under sail.
We keep our gas in the dinghy.
Rick
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Quote:My honda g. sits in the cockpit nicely in between the mizzen mast and the wheel.It sits under the table and is almost invisible.Gas cans normally on deck.PE operated this way for many years.<.. snip>
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Thanks for the input I didn’t like the idea of bringing gasoline inside the boat. Even in the cockpit with the scuppers draining below the waterline I thought that fumes could build up. That would require no wind and a leak I guess.
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