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On most of the 424’s I’ve surveyed I noted a sagging cabin sole by the settees. Syringa’s cabin sole is supported by stainless screws on about 12″ centers running through a 1″ X 1″ beam inside the settees next to the water tank. (Very little space to work with in this area) So far I have supported the deck by adding 2X4 beams under the center of the cabin sole, but I still have about a 1/4″ gap under the settee. The other day I drilled a hole directly above one of the screws and got a 16″ #2 Phillips to retighten it. Surprisingly I hit the offending screw my first shot only to find the wood was stripped out.
My plan now is to jack the sole back into place and put 4″ compound deck screws at a 45 d. angle on 6” centers from the front of the settee through the beam and into the sole and backing plywood and to add a 1″ X 1 1/2″ teak molding beam on the front of the settees which I can further fasten to and teak plug to any exposed holes.
Any suggestions are appreciated.
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The fix I came up with was to drill a 3/8″ hole from the settee deck all the way through the sole. (you need a 24″ long drill bit) I drilled as close to the plywood back without cutting into it. (I did drill through the upper and lower 1″X1″ deck & Sole supports) Under your settee cushion you can see where the plywood starts. (My drill has a bubble level but I don’t think you really need it as you can feel the plywood & supports. Then I took 18″ long 1/4″ stainless steel ready rod and put a Barrel Nut on the top end and a large washer and nut under the sole ( I used 3 of these rods on each side of the sole.) I then tightened the nuts evenly until the sole was pulled back into place. (Note: I drilled next to the 2X4 floor beams that are on 18″ centers)
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You definitely need to post some pictures!
I’ve notice a lot (most?) of the 2×4 stands that are glassed to the hull
and through bolted to the cross beams are missing either the bolt
completely or the nut from the bolt! Getting all this back in is on my
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Talk about timely, I was poking around under the sole today and noticed the 2×4 glassed to the hull had a nut missing with the bolt backed out half way. I didn’t have time to look for others before a day sail and quickly repaired the loose one.
Any idea how many of these 2×4 studs are under there?
Dan Kalinowski
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Okay but how do you slide the bed platform out now? Or does the sliding
part lay on top of the sheet with the barrel nuts?Thanks,
Pete
On 1/25/2010 2:08 PM, Syringa wrote:
Try this http://www.xoopit.com/s/21axomrt8scrscke2xzg
Don Gardner
S/V Syringa #124/)+/)+~=:)
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As you can see I removed the settee bed slides. The Pearson 424 was made with the Caribbean Charter trade in mind so she could sleep 8, now Syringa can sleep 6. As me and my wife have been cursing for years in the Northwest waters we find this to be plenty of room for guests as we only like to take one other couple at a time. When my kids and grand kids come along they always seem to fit nicely.
When I had the settee cushions made I had them make the back rest out of 2″ foam this gave me 2 more inches of butt room and also made the mattress roomier. I also had the seats cushions made so it they not run all the way back to the hull, and now use that space to stow may fishing gear and outer small items. The 2″X2″ piece of wood you can see in the photo keeps the cushion from sliding back.
I like the old saying: A good boat has room for six friends for cocktails, four for dinner, and sleeps two.
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good thinking and good quotation.
Pete
On 1/26/2010 8:45 AM, Syringa wrote:
As you can see I removed the settee bed slides. The Pearson 424 was made with the Caribbean Charter trade in mind so she could sleep 8, now Syringa can sleep 6. As me and my wife have been cursing for years in the Northwest waters we find this to be plenty of room for guests as we only like to take one other couple at a time. When my kids and grand kids come along they always seem to fit nicely.
When I had the settee cushions made I had them make the back rest out of 2″ foam this gave me 2 more inches of butt room and also made the mattress roomier. I also had the seats cushions made so it they not run all the way back to the hull, and now use that space to stow may fishing gear and outer small items. The 2″X2″ piece of wood you can see in the photo keeps the cushion from sliding back.
I like the old saying: A good boat has room for six friends for cocktails, four for dinner, and sleeps two.
Don Gardner
S/V Syringa #124/)+/)+~=:)
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Brilliant settee cushion redesign.
Thanks!
Steve Sears
S/V Spirit
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I think the only solutions are to put in a new stringer under the floor or
to put in a new vetrical support beam in that area and glass it in. I’m not
sure if either of those would then create a preassure point on the hull or
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Thanks Dawn and Patrick!
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