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Hello All-
Looking around for a location to mount a new refrigeration compressor. Clairebuoyant is a two companionway, “U” shaped galley layout.
My question for those of you who have gotten deeper into their P-424 than I have:
On the starboard side, there is a space aft of the settee built-in water tank and forward of the half bulkhead at the companionway. Is there a similar space on the port side? If so, any estimate of the dimensions would be helpful. I’m looking to duct air from the bilge to cool the condenser and exhaust it into the cabin. We are installing two systems, separate freezer and refrigerator, and would like to avoid extension tubing set.
Thanks!
Quent
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Quent,
What about the space under the lower drawer in the galley? There’s quite a lot of room down there. I put an opening door on the side of the cabinet to access this space. I stow cookware down there, but if you had access, it might be a good place for a compressor and condenser.The process of cutting and installing a door down there isn’t all that difficult. I made my own door from the cutout. Its not that difficult if you have a table-saw and router.
https://www.pearson424.org/gallery/index.php/Interior-Modifications/rcarterinterior/P8180007Would you be better off blowing the hot air into the bilge and drawing it in from the cabin?
Rich
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Hi Quent,
My compressor and watermaker (yes, but as it turns out, there’s water
everywhere in the US. Fancy that.) are under the floor boards below what
is the area between your sink and fridge. It’s easy to make an access door
to that area with a circular saw and one of those vibrating saws like the
Dremel Multimax or the Bosch one to cut the corners. Frankly, I don’t
understand why Pearson didn’t put more access into the bilge area – I
installed an opening above the stuffing box and along both sides of the
table.See this post:
http://thesailinglife.blogspot.com/2008/11/there-is-never-enough-space.htmlThere’s lots of room to put a shelf or two for compressors below the cabin
sole. And the bilge is almost always cooler than the rest of the boat
since the water is almost always cooler than the air.Bob
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 8:55 AM, wrote:
Quote:Quent,
What about the space under the lower drawer in the galley? There’s quite
a lot of room down there. I put an opening door on the side of the cabinet
to access this space. I stow cookware down there, but if you had access,
it might be a good place for a compressor and condenser.The process of cutting and installing a door down there isn’t all that
difficult. I made my own door from the cutout. Its not that difficult if
you have a table-saw and router.https://www.pearson424.org/gallery/index.php/Interior-Modifications/rcarterinterior/P8180007
Would you be better off blowing the hot air into the bilge and drawing it
in from the cabin?Rich
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Hi Rich-
Yep, that’s where I figured the freezer compressor would go. Freezer box is in the corner between sink and stove. Isotherm gives you about 6′ of tube between the evaporator and compressor. Since I’m going air-cooled, I’m trying to stay away from the engine. If I have to, I’ll go under the quarter berth for the freezer, and where you said for the refrig.
Kollmann recommends air-cooled as longer lasting than water cooled (certainly cheaper) and we have lots of electric and good insulation.
Kollmann also suggests pulling the cooler air from the bilge. I guess that will allow me to sniff out any holding tank problems.
Boats are always compromises!
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Air from the bilge to the cabin… not sure that is the right
smellerific solution.How about putting the unit under the pullman berth and vent the hot air
out to the lazarettes.That space behind the water tanks is very narrow and hard to work in.
(I was just there drilling holes for air conditioning water hoses and
wires (one of the compressors is going in the port aft locker behind
what was the settee cushion).Best of luck,
Pete
On 9/19/2012 5:42 AM, quent wrote:
Hello All-
Looking around for a location to mount a new refrigeration compressor. Clairebuoyant is a two companionway, “U” shaped galley layout.
My question for those of you who have gotten deeper into their P-424 than I have:
On the starboard side, there is a space aft of the settee built-in water tank and forward of the half bulkhead at the companionway. Is there a similar space on the port side? If so, any estimate of the dimensions would be helpful. I’m looking to duct air from the bilge to cool the condenser and exhaust it into the cabin. We are installing two systems, separate freezer and refrigerator, and would like to avoid extension tubing set.
Thanks!
Quent
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Hi Quent,
So far, not a one.
I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
On Sep 19, 2012 9:35 AM, “quent” wrote:Hi Bob-
Wow! Nice job. I did open up that part of the cabin sole once early on
to replace the seacock but closed it up again. Might have to do that
again. Have you experienced any moisture issues with the compressor down
there?
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Whiffler’s (#110) refrigeration compressor is mounted under the steps of the mid-cabin companionway. The compressor is enclosed in an enclosure which was fabricated for the purpose and works quite effectively with easy access for repairs.
Steve
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Quent,
I suppose that the air in the bilge might be cooler than what’s in the cabin. You will of course heat the cabin in addition to drawing odors from the bilge. Why not return the warmed air to a different part of the bilge? This would keep the nasty odors down there and avoid heating the cabin.Good luck with the project.
Regards
Rich
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Thanks, guys. Good advice all. The first box just arrived from Defender with a compressor. Ordered the stuff yesterday morning.
Stuck my head in bilge. Quickly concluded there is wisdom in leaving the cool but fragrant air down there, or vented outside. I’m leaning to the solution of mounting the compressors under the galley sole, maybe ducting air from lower bilge, then extracting the warm air to outside the boat. Amazing how small the compressor unit is, 12″x6″x6″.
Two of them for 1/2 cubic foot.
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Hello All-
My question for those of you who have gotten deeper into their P-424 than I have:
On the starboard side, there is a space aft of the settee built-in water tank and forward of the half bulkhead at the companionway. Is there a similar space on the port side? If so, any estimate of the dimensions would be helpful.
Thanks!
Quent
Clairebuoyant, #132Quent, there is an identical space on my port side but I don’t have a U shaped galley. The fitting for the water tank is in there, nothing else.
I thought of cutting some holes in the front, below the bunk and supporting some tubes in there for rolled chart storage.Chuck
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