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Has anyone had any experience with mounting a propane generator on board? Recent engine challenges have made me consider dumping the aging W58 and repowering with electric. A fellow sailor mentioned propane generators as a possible great and quiet way to recharge the electric motor battery bank. This seems to make sense as a propane system already exists aboard and using gas or diesel would be an additional headache on an electric boat. (My use of the boat is inter-island here in Hawai’i.)Thoughts? Comments?
Dan Kalinowski
Jolly Lama #135
Keehi Lagoon, O’ahu
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Dan,
When I bought Silverheels 8 years ago, I already knew I was going
to repower her straight away. I spent some time investigating
electric motors then – even visited a manufacturer here in
Florida – and concluded that the technology wasn’t quite there
yet. I gather you’ve found it is now. Would love to know who,
what, where – at least for general interest.Sorry, I have no useful insight to offer regarding your generator
fuel query.Tor
Silverheels, P-424 #17
http://www.silverheels.us
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If you are going far and wide, diesel would be much more convenient as it is easy to find and you won’t have to haul tanks to have them filled. Also the amount of power generated from a given volume of diesel vs propane will be a lot more if I am not mistaken.
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Until small, convenient, and inexpensive fuel cells or fusion generators
are available, stick with diesel. Much easier.As far as electric motors go, a small generator and motor would do the job.
Bob
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is easy to find and you won’t have to haul tanks to have them filled. Also
the amount of power generated from a given volume of diesel vs propane will
be a lot more if I am not mistaken.Sent from my Android phone with a spell checker programmed to entertain
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Have to agree. I have researched electric power extensively and the bottom line, with current technology it is only practical for in and out of the slip or harbor. Without installing a huge battery bank you just can’t get more that a 40-50 mile range. Also until recently there were no commercially available systems that came close to duplicating the HP you get from a W58.
For Dan’s application that might be just fine.
Regarding propane same issue. Takes a lot more storage space to get the same range with propane that you do with diesel.
One thing that for me is a major issue is the cost of electric. “Marine” systems I’ve found that give roughly half the power of a W58 can cost as much as a complete new drive train. The one I’ve found, Elco, that has a motor equivalent to the W58 is even more.
The part that really annoys me, I could buy a new electric motor +/- 60 HP for my Prius for about $600. Or I can buy a continuous duty, industrial grade electric motor for less than $2000. Add controls, mounting, etc surely can’t cost another $10,000. So how come the HUGE difference? Surely the marinization can’t cost that much. If the non marine motor starts corroding in the boat I’ll buy 2-3 more and still be way ahead.
Sorry for the rant, just one of my hot button issues.
Dan, if you decide to go this way there’s a guy on Cruisers Forum that was working on a DIY electric system and had found options from the DIY electric car groups. If you want to go that way I’ll get you some info or his contact name.
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The HONDA 2000AE is now available as a propane version. Also, a conversion
kit for the gas powered model is available.~~~ ~ (_~~ (_~ ~ ~ fair winds ~ ~ (_
Capt Bill Tice, aboard s/v CHARISMAIn a message dated 2/21/2015 10:03:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
writes:Have to agree. I have researched electric power extensively and the
bottom line, with current technology it is only practical for in and out of the
slip or harbor. Without installing a huge battery bank you just can’t
get more that a 40-50 mile range. Also until recently there were no
commercially available systems that came close to duplicating the HP you get from
a W58.For Dan’s application that might be just fine.
Regarding propane same issue. Takes a lot more storage space to get the
same range with propane that you do with diesel.One thing that for me is a major issue is the cost of electric. “Marine”
systems I’ve found that give roughly half the power of a W58 can cost as
much as a complete new drive train. The one I’ve found, Elco, that has a
motor equivalent to the W58 is even more.The part that really annoys me, I could buy a new electric motor +/- 60 HP
for my Prius for about $600. Or I can buy a continuous duty, industrial
grade electric motor for less than $2000. Add controls, mounting, etc
surely can’t cost another $10,000. So how come the HUGE difference? Surely
the marinization can’t cost that much. If the non marine motor starts
corroding in the boat I’ll buy 2-3 more and still be way ahead.Sorry for the rant, just one of my hot button issues.
Dan, if you decide to go this way there’s a guy on Cruisers Forum that was
working on a DIY electric system and had found options from the DIY
electric car groups. If you want to go that way I’ll get you some info or his
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Hey Bill, that is VERY interesting. I’ll have to snoop the google to see
that, or do you have a link for us?
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hey Ken – sorry, no links…suggest you GOOGLE: HONDA 2000EU PROPANE.
hope all is well, regards, BILL~~~ ~ (_~~ (_~ ~ ~ fair winds ~ ~ (_
Capt Bill Tice, aboard s/v CHARISMA
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23*31.35’N / 75*45.73’WIn a message dated 2/21/2015 5:43:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
writes:Hey Bill, that is VERY interesting. I’ll have to snoop the google to see
that, or do you have a link for us?
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found this…
http://www.technomadia.com/2009/07/propane-power-and-cooling/~~~ ~ (_~~ (_~ ~ ~ fair winds ~ ~ (_
Capt Bill Tice, aboard s/v CHARISMA
George Town, Exuma, Bahamas~
23*31.35’N / 75*45.73’WIn a message dated 2/21/2015 5:43:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
writes:Hey Bill, that is VERY interesting. I’ll have to snoop the google to see
that, or do you have a link for us?
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