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    • #66884
      Adam Silverstein
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      Where do we pump the oil out on a W60?

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    • #69322
      unabated
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      If it’s anything like a W58 – suck it out of the dip
      stick tube….
      Run the engine, get it warm and there ya go!
      I have one of the blue can things that you can pump up
      to a pretty strong vacumm. Works the best of all the
      devices I have wasted my money on in the past 30 years
      to suck oil out of a marine engine.
      alan

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    • #69323
      madsailor
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      The W58 and I believe the W60 have a fitting on the bottom of the oil pan to which you can connect a pump. If not, they are available fairly inexpensively.

      Bob

      On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 2:33 PM, alan P < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      If it's anything like a W58 – suck it out of the dip
      stick tube….
      Run the engine, get it warm and there ya go!
      I have one of the blue can things that you can pump up
      to a pretty strong vacumm. Works the best of all the
      devices I have wasted my money on in the past 30 years
      to suck oil out of a marine engine.
      alan

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    • #69324
      RichCarter
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      Yes, use the dipstick tube. I use one of those drill pumps. I slip a hose over the dipstick tube and clamp it. Then run the electric drill with the business end in an empty plastic jug. I have to be very careful because if something slips off, oil can get all over the place. The oil must be warm or it won’t pump out. Some folks run a small hose down the dipstick tube, but I’ve had better success just connecting to the top of the tube.

      For the W60, I used to slip a plastic ziplock bag over the oil filter, then remove it. My Yanmar engine has the oil filter mounted on the side of the engine. There’s no way to avoid making a mess when you remove it.

      I bought one of those blue pump cans, but I lost a gasket for it. In theory, it should work well too. One of these days I’ll get a replacement gasket.


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    • #69327
      unabated
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      My W58 has a hose that is already connected to that
      fitting.
      I put a fitting on the end of the hose for the vac
      pump that attaches to that fitting along with a small
      1/8″ ball valve. That way I have no vac leaks and I
      can bring the vac down pretty low and then open the
      valve.

      — Robert Fine <> wrote:

      The W58 and I believe the W60 have a fitting on the
      bottom of the oil pan to
      which you can connect a pump. If not, they are
      available fairly
      inexpensively.

      Bob

      On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 2:33 PM, alan P
      <> wrote:

      If it’s anything like a W58 – suck it out of the

      dip

      stick tube….
      Run the engine, get it warm and there ya go!
      I have one of the blue can things that you can

      pump up

      to a pretty strong vacumm. Works the best of all

      the

      devices I have wasted my money on in the past 30

      years

      to suck oil out of a marine engine.
      alan

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    • #69330
      john stevenson
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      As others have pointed out, if you don't have a hose on the bottom of the oil sump don't bother to fit one just use the dip stick tube. I use a Tempo vacuum pump. I insert the hose into the dipstick, give about it 7 or 8 pumps and go do something else for 15 minutes. When I come back 4 qts of oil are in the pump. The pump is a bit bulky, but it fits nicely in the lazarette behind my propane locker.

      On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 5:02 PM, alan P < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      My W58 has a hose that is already connected to that
      fitting.
      I put a fitting on the end of the hose for the vac
      pump that attaches to that fitting along with a small
      1/8″ ball valve. That way I have no vac leaks and I
      can bring the vac down pretty low and then open the
      valve.

      — Robert Fine < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      The W58 and I believe the W60 have a fitting on the
      bottom of the oil pan to
      which you can connect a pump. If not, they are
      available fairly
      inexpensively.

      Bob

      On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 2:33 PM, alan P
      < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      If it's anything like a W58 – suck it out of the

      dip

      stick tube….
      Run the engine, get it warm and there ya go!
      I have one of the blue can things that you can

      pump up

      to a pretty strong vacumm. Works the best of all

      the

      devices I have wasted my money on in the past 30

      years

      to suck oil out of a marine engine.
      alan

      — adam silverstein < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      Where do we pump the oil out on a W60?

      -Adam Silverstein
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    • #69335
      Chuck Ruble
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      Adam, same answer. I pull it out through the dipstick tube. I use this product and swear by it;

      http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/producte/10001/-1/10001/268534/377%20710/0/oil%20change/Primary%20Search/mode%20matchallpartial/0/0?N=377%20710&Ne=0&Ntt=oil%20change&Ntk=Primary%20Search&Ntx=mode%20matchallpartial&Nao=0&Ns=0&keyword=oil%20change&isLTokenURL=true&storeNum=6&subdeptNum=169&classNum=170

      I use it to pull the oil out of my diesel VW as well, saves me the trouble of getting under the car and I found I pull more out with the vacuum device vs. draining it. Don't get a pump unit, the vacuum unit after a few draws with the handle will continue to fill with no interaction. A pump is a mess waiting to happen. The vacuum unit has a float that will prevent it from overfilling.

      The oil must be warm, hot is even better.

      Fill your new oil filter before installing it.

      I cut a milk jug to fit under the filter for removal, works for both the fuel and oil filters, don't cut the handle off. It sits on the transmission.

      The W60 holds around 7 quarts. I think that's the main reasons these engines show so little wear over time.

      When doing my rebuild I took apart the little oil manifold that is on the electrical panel next to the forward port engine bracket. The block is connected to the engine via a 1/4 inch hose and provides a number of sensors with engine oil pressure. The block had a significant amount of old oil sludge settled in it, more like tar. The thing is no problem to remove, be careful with the sensors and the associated electrical contacts.

      Here's an interesting fact, a diesel circulates 100% of its oil through the filter, most on road gasoline engines only circulate about 10-20% through the filter, the remainder bypasses the filter. Oil and clean fuel are the life blood of these old slow turners.

      Chuck

      On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 1:57 PM, adam silverstein < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      Where do we pump the oil out on a W60?

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    • #69340
      Chuck Ruble
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      Aaron, I will admit the first unit I bought did leak, West Marine provided me with another and it has worked fine for the last 4 years. It works on a vacuum/negative pressure so if it was leaking out the bottom it may have been comprimised to start with. I will inpsect the bottom of mine though. I cannot imagine what 5 quarts of oil would look like on the master bunk floor…. probably real shiny and more like a skating rink for a few seasons.

      On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 4:58 AM, Aaron Lynch < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      Chuck, I have the same unit, however I overpumped it once, not understanding the relief valve mechanism. Oil shot out of a hole in the bottom of the unit making a HUGE mess.

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