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Hi All,
I just put these lights up, and they draw 1/2 of the old festoon lights
power with the obvious result. These lights as marine lights: $109. The
exact same lights with the exact same specs on Amazon, $20. Difference?
These are black for off road/rv use. Yacht ones are white. Do I care?
Not much.Bob
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Bob,
Wow! How much do they draw?
I mounted a pair of 55W sealed beam lamps under the main spreaders when I re-wired the masts back in 2007, one fixed aiming straight down and one swivel aimed at the foredeck. At that time they were about $9 and $18, respectively, Port Supply prices. They draw 4.6A@12V apiece. I don’t use them often, but when I do they’re a godsend. Mainly they’re for complex deck chores offshore at night, and for lighting up the boat for sleepy watch keepers on approaching ships.
Tor
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Tor, they are 18 watts a piece, or 1.5 amps at 12v. I’m going to separate
the mizzen fron the main so in your case, with the main only, 3 amps.Bob
Pardon the brevity. I’m typing this on my phone and I hate typing on my
phone.
On May 28, 2014 7:40 AM, “Silverheels” wrote:Quote:Bob,Wow! How much do they draw?
I mounted a pair of 55W sealed beam lamps under the main spreaders when I
re-wired the masts back in 2007, one fixed aiming straight down and one
swivel aimed at the foredeck. At that time they were about $9 and $18,
respectively, Port Supply prices. They draw 4.6A@12V apiece. I don’t use
them often, but when I do they’re a godsend. Mainly they’re for complex
deck chores offshore at night, and for lighting up the boat for sleepy
watch keepers on approaching ships.Tor
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I replaced mine with a pair of marine LED deck-lights, not spreader lights. They draw .4A. They are nowhere near as bright as what you show but they are adequate and don’t even deflect the ammeter when they are on. At $56ea, they are affordable and much less expensive than the LED spreader lamps. I have no idea why the spreader lights are so much more expensive.
http://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1|65136|2312533&id=1845652They swivel, which is not a feature for a spreader light. The headsail can press against the light when tacking. This will push the lamp back on its swivel, illuminating the cockpit and not the foredeck. I cut a small piece of aluminum angle bracket and attached it to the mounting base. This holds the lamp from swiveling.
The original deck lamps from Pearson were junk. They ate bulbs and sucked down battery power when they worked.
Rich
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I rarely use mine as well because of the 7 amp draw. Now with three for
each mast, I’ll be happy to use them regularly. I may even add a remote
control (did for a customer) so that while tooling around an anchorage I
can turn them on as I approach the boat.Bob
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:46 AM, Silverheels wrote:
Quote:As I suspected. A much kinder amp draw, for sure, and
so bright! Well done. I rarely use mine, drawing 9+amps
together, without the engine running.Tor
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These lamps, Rich, are off road version of the marine ones – same
construction specs – and were $20 each. With six large LEDs each they can
do some lighting. They can be moved, but were tightened in place.
Moreover, because they fit completely under the spreader I think they’ll be
out of the way of the sails.At least that’s the plan…
Bob
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 9:31 AM, wrote:
Quote:I replaced mine with a pair of marine LED deck-lights, not spreader
lights. They draw .4A. They are nowhere near as bright as what you show
but they are adequate and don’t even deflect the ammeter when they are on.
At $56ea, they are affordable and much less expensive than the LED
spreader lamps. I have no idea why the spreader lights are so much more
expensive.
http://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1|65136|2312533&id=1845652They swivel, which is not a feature for a spreader light. The headsail
can press against the light when tacking. This will push the lamp back on
its swivel, illuminating the cockpit and not the foredeck. I cut a small
piece of aluminum angle bracket and attached it to the mounting base. This
holds the lamp from swiveling.The original deck lamps from Pearson were junk. They ate bulbs and sucked
down battery power when they worked.Rich
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I made a little clip-bracket to hold my one swivel
spreader light, too, to keep it aimed onto the
foredeck. Otherwise just sailing the boat would
re-direct the light, invariably towards someplace I
didn’t want it to shine. There is no provision for
tensioning the swivel, a simple ball joint.Tor
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Bob,
Interesting solution, but if I don’t pay top price for marine quality, I’m not going to be satisfied (what am I saying, someone please whack me on the back of the head).The spotlights I mounted were clear under the spreaders too, but the headsail still pushed them back when tacking. If your headsail is smaller than your foretriangle you may not have this problem. The fix was pretty simple, just a short section of L-bracket mounted under the lamp using the same faster that was used to hold the lamp. This prevents the lamp from swiveling back.
Rich
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Rich, normally I’d agree with you, but in this case the only difference
was color. Really, the specs were identical in every way.The bracket on these lights are designed such that they can rotate in only
two axis, with one the bolt through the spreader and one parallel to the
light.Even my 135 won’t hit them, I think although I could be wrong.
We’ll see. One thing I will do, however, is separate the mizzen from the
main so that I only have to light one set at a time.Bob
Pardon the brevity. I’m typing this on my phone and I hate typing on my
phone.
On May 28, 2014 5:25 PM, wrote:Quote:Bob,
Interesting solution, but if I don’t pay top price for marine quality, I’m
not going to be satisfied (what am I saying, someone please whack me on the
back of the head).The spotlights I mounted were clear under the spreaders too, but the
headsail still pushed them back when tacking. If your headsail is smaller
than your foretriangle you may not have this problem. The fix was pretty
simple, just a short section of L-bracket mounted under the lamp using the
same faster that was used to hold the lamp. This prevents the lamp from
swiveling back.Rich
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I have been thinking about replacing my spreader lights with LED but frankly, that has been a low priority. I have already replaced everything filament with LED including running, anchor, and all cabin lights. The two that I haven’t done yet are the steamer and the spreaders. My logic is that I only use them when the engine is running so the amperage doesn’t matter. At anchor, I have on lots of cabin lights with the anchor light and I barely move the amp needle.
Doing a night crossing the LED running lights save about 8 a-hrs/ hr.
Now if I just had LED refrigeration, radar and autopilot. -
Somehow I missed the web link for those lights. Bob could you resend that please.
Alan
Sent from my iPhoneOn May 27, 2014, at 9:23 PM, Robert Fine wrote:
Hi All,
I just put these lights up, and they draw 1/2 of the old festoon lights
power with the obvious result. These lights as marine lights: $109. The
exact same lights with the exact same specs on Amazon, $20. Difference?
These are black for off road/rv use. Yacht ones are white. Do I care?
Not much.Bob
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Pardon the brevity. I’m typing this on my phone and I hate typing on my
phone.
On May 30, 2014 8:46 AM, “allantereshko”
wrote:I couldn’t find the link,also. If you would be so kind as to resend.
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I’m going to switch them so that I can light the main, mizzen or both. I
just haven’t figured out the best solution to that yet.Bob
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> wrote:Thanks,got a couple from Amazon. Many potential applications. How did
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