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June 11, 2012 at 2:00 am #68580
RLeeds
ParticipantAny opinions on these new style FW pumps such as FLo-Jet variable sensor
units? Would 4.0 or 5.0 gpm be necessary for a galley sink and 2 heads?Thanks- I need to replace an aging Jabsco diaphragm style unit.
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June 11, 2012 at 3:48 am #78610
Hull152_Patrick
SpectatorOur pressurized water system is driven by a Jabsco Sensor Max VSD
31750 which draws from the tanks through an American Plumber W38-PRA
(W.5CB) filter which can have one of several filters installed designed to
remove sediment and chlorine or tiny little bacteria as needed.I think the Cold water side could benefit from an accumulator tank because
the pressure is stabstantially higher on the HOT side which goes through
the hot water heater. I don’t even know when we last turned that on, but I
think it’s tank acts like an accumulator. That said, the pressure isn’t bad
on the cold sider, it’s just better on the hot.Our old (original?) pump was so loud we were embarrased by it. This one is
great!
I should mention we elimintated the forward sink… saw no need for it!Plumbing overview: http://deepplaya.com/?p=160
Pics of the V-berth Modifications:
http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=26558453@N03&q=v-berth10 Months off the dock and all of these things have been worth it!
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W7PEAOn Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Rodd Leeds wrote:
Any opinions on these new style FW pumps such as FLo-Jet variable sensor
units? Would 4.0 or 5.0 gpm be necessary for a galley sink and 2 heads?Thanks- I need to replace an aging Jabsco diaphragm style unit.
Rodd Leeds
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June 11, 2012 at 10:37 am #78611
madsailor
ModeratorI was all over the VSD pumps, but have had two myself, had customers with
one or more fail. Especially the leak detection ones. I went back to a
simple pump and accumulator system.The fancy pumps are a great idea but are not ready for prime time.
Bob
I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
On Jun 10, 2012 11:48 PM, “Peaboy Walters” wrote:Our pressurized water system is driven by a Jabsco Sensor Max VSD
31750 which draws from the tanks through an American Plumber W38-PRA
(W.5CB) filter which can have one of several filters installed designed to
remove sediment and chlorine or tiny little bacteria as needed.I think the Cold water side could benefit from an accumulator tank because
the pressure is stabstantially higher on the HOT side which goes through
the hot water heater. I don’t even know when we last turned that on, but I
think it’s tank acts like an accumulator. That said, the pressure isn’t bad
on the cold sider, it’s just better on the hot.Our old (original?) pump was so loud we were embarrased by it. This one is
great!
I should mention we elimintated the forward sink… saw no need for it!Plumbing overview: http://deepplaya.com/?p=160
Pics of the V-berth Modifications:
http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=26558453@N03&q=v-berth10 Months off the dock and all of these things have been worth it!
-patrick
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W7PEAOn Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Rodd Leeds wrote:
Any opinions on these new style FW pumps such as FLo-Jet variable sensor
units? Would 4.0 or 5.0 gpm be necessary for a galley sink and 2 heads?Thanks- I need to replace an aging Jabsco diaphragm style unit.
Rodd Leeds
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June 11, 2012 at 10:40 am #78612
unabated
ParticipantI have heard that same comment from several people this winter on my travels south…. Simple is better.
alan— On Mon, 6/11/12, Robert Fine wrote:
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June 11, 2012 at 12:26 pm #78613
john stevenson
ParticipantThat was my experience (what Bob wrote) several years ago. I went through
three of the pumps before going back to one of the standard (constant
speed) pumps. I hoped they had improved as they are definitely quieter and
more efficient than the standard ones. Doesn’t sound like it.
As to the volume, I believe my current pump is 4.3 gpm. That is more than
adequate, but I rarely have more than one of four faucets on at the same
time.Regards,
John Stevenson
http://www.svsarah.comOn Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 6:40 AM, Alan wrote:
Quote:I have heard that same comment from several people this winter on my
travels south…. Simple is better.
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June 11, 2012 at 12:35 pm #78614
RichCarter
ParticipantRodd
I assume that this is the freshwater pressure water pump. The nice thing about the old diaphram pumps is that they are self-priming. I replaced mine with a Jabsco PAR wabble-plate pump several years back. It works well, but it doesn’t prime itself. If it runs dry, it can be difficult to prime. This can happen if the tank is low and the boat is on a tack that puts the tank on the low side of the boat. Mounting it low can help avoid this problem. I mounted mine on the side of the bulkhead below the galley sink. I wish I had mounted it lower. I installed an in-line water strainer and accumulator tank followed by a sediment filter.I have a backup foot-pump. I’m looking at moving the connections so that I could use it to prime the pressure water pump.
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Rich
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June 11, 2012 at 1:18 pm #78615
joe shimkonis
ParticipantRodd-I had a Jabsco 3 gpm but it became very loud when pumping.I went back to the Shurflo pumps because they claim to be quiet.I started with a 2 gpm and asked West Marine if I could return if if it didn’t provide adequate flow-it didn’t and I returned it for the 3 gpm.3 gpm provides plenty of flow-perhaps 4-5 gpm is overkill.
I also installed new valves and hoses under the floor [mover from the sink cabinet wall mount] because I had a tendencyto overfill the tanks and flood the cabinet floor.I now how a white,uncluttered sink cabinet.________________________________
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June 12, 2012 at 3:27 pm #78616
RLeeds
Participantdecided to go with a simple Shurflo 4.0 gpm pump and keep my accumulator
tank as well. Tks for heads up on the VSD pumps- good idea, but if not
reliable who needs it!Rodd Leeds
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