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One of the reasons I chose this particular 424 hull back in 2003 when I purchased the boat, was it had a new fuel tank, of which I was able to verify by the Florida Tank Sales sticker on the tank. noting that it was installed in 2000.
Here it is 2014 and I believe I have a fuel tank leak.
I’ve looked at all the surfaces that are visible as that tank is installed, which leaves just the top half all the way around. the fittings are not leaking. I was able to determine over the weekend that it leaks a teaspoon per hour. A teaspoon per hour works out to be just about a half a cup per 24 hours. Not sure if it’s rotted from the inside or chafed through from the outside.
I have a cookie sheet underneath the tank to collect the oil to keep it out of the bilge, along with absorbent towels so it’s manageable right now.
So it looks like I’ll have to pull the engine which doesn’t scare me. I had it out a couple years ago on my trip down south. Last time it took four hours of my time and 30 minutes of yard time to lift the engine out.
What scares me now is how the heck do I get that tank out. as in wrestling that thing out with the intention of putting the tank back in, as in not destroying it on the way out.
Comments?
Repowering at this time is not a discussion. at Kodak we used to call that “scope creep”Alan
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Alan,
From what I understand, the tank comes out forward after removing the
planking that holds it in place behind the engine. It should be relatively
simple.Bob
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 5:54 PM, Alan wrote:
One of the reasons I chose this particular 424 hull back in 2003 when I
purchased the boat, was it had a new fuel tank, of which I was able to
verify by the Florida Tank Sales sticker on the tank. noting that it was
installed in 2000.
Here it is 2014 and I believe I have a fuel tank leak.
I’ve looked at all the surfaces that are visible as that tank is
installed, which leaves just the top half all the way around. the fittings
are not leaking. I was able to determine over the weekend that it leaks a
teaspoon per hour. A teaspoon per hour works out to be just about a half a
cup per 24 hours. Not sure if it’s rotted from the inside or chafed
through from the outside.
I have a cookie sheet underneath the tank to collect the oil to keep it
out of the bilge, along with absorbent towels so it’s manageable right now.
So it looks like I’ll have to pull the engine which doesn’t scare me. I
had it out a couple years ago on my trip down south. Last time it took four
hours of my time and 30 minutes of yard time to lift the engine out.
What scares me now is how the heck do I get that tank out. as in wrestling
that thing out with the intention of putting the tank back in, as in not
destroying it on the way out.
Comments?
Repowering at this time is not a discussion. at Kodak we used to call
that “scope creep”Alan
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Alan I very recently did this job while on a mooring in Vero Beach. I just
lifted the engine, built a cradle under it and rolled it forward jammed
into the cabin doorway. My wife and I had plenty of room to take out the
tank and lift it through the companionway. Just a little scratch on the
trim. You can see the whole job here on my blog starting from here…
http://pagetwo88.blogspot.com/2014/04/the-four-hour-job5-days-later.htmlThe very bottom of the tank was rotten and I was lucky it hadn’t creeped
up the side panels. I cut a 1/2″ off the very bottom losing maybe less than
a gallon and had a local shop weld a new bottom on. After a very thorough
cleaning (see blog pics) and the new bottom, I’m calling it a new tank.Ken
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Robert Fine wrote:
Alan,
From what I understand, the tank comes out forward after removing the
planking that holds it in place behind the engine. It should be relatively
simple.Bob
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 5:54 PM, Alan wrote:
One of the reasons I chose this particular 424 hull back in 2003 when I
purchased the boat, was it had a new fuel tank, of which I was able to
verify by the Florida Tank Sales sticker on the tank. noting that it was
installed in 2000.
Here it is 2014 and I believe I have a fuel tank leak.
I’ve looked at all the surfaces that are visible as that tank is
installed, which leaves just the top half all the way around. thefittings
are not leaking. I was able to determine over the weekend that it leaks a
teaspoon per hour. A teaspoon per hour works out to be just about ahalf a
cup per 24 hours. Not sure if it’s rotted from the inside or chafed
through from the outside.
I have a cookie sheet underneath the tank to collect the oil to keep it
out of the bilge, along with absorbent towels so it’s manageable rightnow.
So it looks like I’ll have to pull the engine which doesn’t scare me. I
had it out a couple years ago on my trip down south. Last time it tookfour
hours of my time and 30 minutes of yard time to lift the engine out.
What scares me now is how the heck do I get that tank out. as inwrestling
that thing out with the intention of putting the tank back in, as in not
destroying it on the way out.
Comments?
Repowering at this time is not a discussion. at Kodak we used to call
that “scope creep”Alan
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Very cool.
very encouraging. thank you very much. maybe I’ll attempt this while in my slip. I’ve done crazier things. slip, I meant in the slip at the marina not wearing my slip. I just reserve that for Saturday nights. I’ll just wear shorts for this occasion.
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On Jun 9, 2014, at 8:50 PM, Ken Page wrote:
Alan I very recently did this job while on a mooring in Vero Beach. I just
lifted the engine, built a cradle under it and rolled it forward jammed
into the cabin doorway. My wife and I had plenty of room to take out the
tank and lift it through the companionway. Just a little scratch on the
trim. You can see the whole job here on my blog starting from here…
http://pagetwo88.blogspot.com/2014/04/the-four-hour-job5-days-later.htmlThe very bottom of the tank was rotten and I was lucky it hadn’t creeped
up the side panels. I cut a 1/2″ off the very bottom losing maybe less than
a gallon and had a local shop weld a new bottom on. After a very thorough
cleaning (see blog pics) and the new bottom, I’m calling it a new tank.Ken
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Robert Fine wrote:
Alan,
From what I understand, the tank comes out forward after removing the
planking that holds it in place behind the engine. It should be relatively
simple.Bob
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 5:54 PM, Alan wrote:
One of the reasons I chose this particular 424 hull back in 2003 when I
purchased the boat, was it had a new fuel tank, of which I was able to
verify by the Florida Tank Sales sticker on the tank. noting that it was
installed in 2000.
Here it is 2014 and I believe I have a fuel tank leak.
I’ve looked at all the surfaces that are visible as that tank is
installed, which leaves just the top half all the way around. thefittings
are not leaking. I was able to determine over the weekend that it leaks a
teaspoon per hour. A teaspoon per hour works out to be just about ahalf a
cup per 24 hours. Not sure if it’s rotted from the inside or chafed
through from the outside.
I have a cookie sheet underneath the tank to collect the oil to keep it
out of the bilge, along with absorbent towels so it’s manageable rightnow.
So it looks like I’ll have to pull the engine which doesn’t scare me. I
had it out a couple years ago on my trip down south. Last time it tookfour
hours of my time and 30 minutes of yard time to lift the engine out.
What scares me now is how the heck do I get that tank out. as inwrestling
that thing out with the intention of putting the tank back in, as in not
destroying it on the way out.
Comments?
Repowering at this time is not a discussion. at Kodak we used to call
that “scope creep”Alan
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Although I do keep my blond wig on board.
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On Jun 9, 2014, at 8:50 PM, Ken Page wrote:
Alan I very recently did this job while on a mooring in Vero Beach. I just
lifted the engine, built a cradle under it and rolled it forward jammed
into the cabin doorway. My wife and I had plenty of room to take out the
tank and lift it through the companionway. Just a little scratch on the
trim. You can see the whole job here on my blog starting from here…
http://pagetwo88.blogspot.com/2014/04/the-four-hour-job5-days-later.htmlThe very bottom of the tank was rotten and I was lucky it hadn’t creeped
up the side panels. I cut a 1/2″ off the very bottom losing maybe less than
a gallon and had a local shop weld a new bottom on. After a very thorough
cleaning (see blog pics) and the new bottom, I’m calling it a new tank.Ken
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Robert Fine wrote:
Alan,
From what I understand, the tank comes out forward after removing the
planking that holds it in place behind the engine. It should be relatively
simple.Bob
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 5:54 PM, Alan wrote:
One of the reasons I chose this particular 424 hull back in 2003 when I
purchased the boat, was it had a new fuel tank, of which I was able to
verify by the Florida Tank Sales sticker on the tank. noting that it was
installed in 2000.
Here it is 2014 and I believe I have a fuel tank leak.
I’ve looked at all the surfaces that are visible as that tank is
installed, which leaves just the top half all the way around. thefittings
are not leaking. I was able to determine over the weekend that it leaks a
teaspoon per hour. A teaspoon per hour works out to be just about ahalf a
cup per 24 hours. Not sure if it’s rotted from the inside or chafed
through from the outside.
I have a cookie sheet underneath the tank to collect the oil to keep it
out of the bilge, along with absorbent towels so it’s manageable rightnow.
So it looks like I’ll have to pull the engine which doesn’t scare me. I
had it out a couple years ago on my trip down south. Last time it tookfour
hours of my time and 30 minutes of yard time to lift the engine out.
What scares me now is how the heck do I get that tank out. as inwrestling
that thing out with the intention of putting the tank back in, as in not
destroying it on the way out.
Comments?
Repowering at this time is not a discussion. at Kodak we used to call
that “scope creep”Alan
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Anyone have some quick approximate dimensions of fuel tank?? Save me driving 60 miles to get them.
Thanks on advance
AlanSent from my iPhone
On Jun 9, 2014, at 8:50 PM, Ken Page wrote:
Alan I very recently did this job while on a mooring in Vero Beach. I just
lifted the engine, built a cradle under it and rolled it forward jammed
into the cabin doorway. My wife and I had plenty of room to take out the
tank and lift it through the companionway. Just a little scratch on the
trim. You can see the whole job here on my blog starting from here…
http://pagetwo88.blogspot.com/2014/04/the-four-hour-job5-days-later.htmlThe very bottom of the tank was rotten and I was lucky it hadn’t creeped
up the side panels. I cut a 1/2″ off the very bottom losing maybe less than
a gallon and had a local shop weld a new bottom on. After a very thorough
cleaning (see blog pics) and the new bottom, I’m calling it a new tank.Ken
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Robert Fine wrote:
Alan,
From what I understand, the tank comes out forward after removing the
planking that holds it in place behind the engine. It should be relatively
simple.Bob
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 5:54 PM, Alan wrote:
One of the reasons I chose this particular 424 hull back in 2003 when I
purchased the boat, was it had a new fuel tank, of which I was able to
verify by the Florida Tank Sales sticker on the tank. noting that it was
installed in 2000.
Here it is 2014 and I believe I have a fuel tank leak.
I’ve looked at all the surfaces that are visible as that tank is
installed, which leaves just the top half all the way around. thefittings
are not leaking. I was able to determine over the weekend that it leaks a
teaspoon per hour. A teaspoon per hour works out to be just about ahalf a
cup per 24 hours. Not sure if it’s rotted from the inside or chafed
through from the outside.
I have a cookie sheet underneath the tank to collect the oil to keep it
out of the bilge, along with absorbent towels so it’s manageable rightnow.
So it looks like I’ll have to pull the engine which doesn’t scare me. I
had it out a couple years ago on my trip down south. Last time it tookfour
hours of my time and 30 minutes of yard time to lift the engine out.
What scares me now is how the heck do I get that tank out. as inwrestling
that thing out with the intention of putting the tank back in, as in not
destroying it on the way out.
Comments?
Repowering at this time is not a discussion. at Kodak we used to call
that “scope creep”Alan
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24″ tall at it’s deepest point…27″ long (front to back)…and 34″ wide
(port to stb)…if my memory serves me well plus I just wangled a tape down
there from the locker.Ken
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 7:13 PM, Alan via maillist
wrote:Anyone have some quick approximate dimensions of fuel tank?? Save me
driving 60 miles to get them.
Thanks on advance
AlanSent from my iPhone
On Jun 9, 2014, at 8:50 PM, Ken Page wrote:
Alan I very recently did this job while on a mooring in Vero Beach. I
just
lifted the engine, built a cradle under it and rolled it forward jammed
into the cabin doorway. My wife and I had plenty of room to take out the
tank and lift it through the companionway. Just a little scratch on the
trim. You can see the whole job here on my blog starting from here…
http://pagetwo88.blogspot.com/2014/04/the-four-hour-job5-days-later.htmlThe very bottom of the tank was rotten and I was lucky it hadn’t creeped
up the side panels. I cut a 1/2″ off the very bottom losing maybe lessthan
a gallon and had a local shop weld a new bottom on. After a very thorough
cleaning (see blog pics) and the new bottom, I’m calling it a new tank.Ken
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Robert Fine wrote:
Alan,
From what I understand, the tank comes out forward after removing the
planking that holds it in place behind the engine. It should berelatively
simple.
Bob
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 5:54 PM, Alan wrote:
One of the reasons I chose this particular 424 hull back in 2003 when I
purchased the boat, was it had a new fuel tank, of which I was able to
verify by the Florida Tank Sales sticker on the tank. noting that itwas
installed in 2000.
Here it is 2014 and I believe I have a fuel tank leak.
I’ve looked at all the surfaces that are visible as that tank is
installed, which leaves just the top half all the way around. thefittings
are not leaking. I was able to determine over the weekend that it
leaks a
teaspoon per hour. A teaspoon per hour works out to be just about a
half a
cup per 24 hours. Not sure if it’s rotted from the inside or chafed
through from the outside.
I have a cookie sheet underneath the tank to collect the oil to keep it
out of the bilge, along with absorbent towels so it’s manageable rightnow.
So it looks like I’ll have to pull the engine which doesn’t scare me. I
had it out a couple years ago on my trip down south. Last time it tookfour
hours of my time and 30 minutes of yard time to lift the engine out.
What scares me now is how the heck do I get that tank out. as inwrestling
that thing out with the intention of putting the tank back in, as in
not
destroying it on the way out.
Comments?
Repowering at this time is not a discussion. at Kodak we used to call
that “scope creep”Alan
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I should add, so people know, that the tanks baffle is attached from port to stb. which to me means it it’s crap. There is nothing keeping the fuel from sloshing heavily while rolling side to side while sailing.
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Thanks ken.
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24″ tall at it’s deepest point…27″ long (front to back)…and 34″ wide
(port to stb)…if my memory serves me well plus I just wangled a tape down
there from the locker.Ken
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 7:13 PM, Alan via maillist
wrote:Anyone have some quick approximate dimensions of fuel tank?? Save me
driving 60 miles to get them.
Thanks on advance
AlanSent from my iPhone
On Jun 9, 2014, at 8:50 PM, Ken Page wrote:
Alan I very recently did this job while on a mooring in Vero Beach. I
just
lifted the engine, built a cradle under it and rolled it forward jammed
into the cabin doorway. My wife and I had plenty of room to take out the
tank and lift it through the companionway. Just a little scratch on the
trim. You can see the whole job here on my blog starting from here…
http://pagetwo88.blogspot.com/2014/04/the-four-hour-job5-days-later.htmlThe very bottom of the tank was rotten and I was lucky it hadn’t creeped
up the side panels. I cut a 1/2″ off the very bottom losing maybe lessthan
a gallon and had a local shop weld a new bottom on. After a very thorough
cleaning (see blog pics) and the new bottom, I’m calling it a new tank.Ken
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Robert Fine wrote:
Alan,
From what I understand, the tank comes out forward after removing the
planking that holds it in place behind the engine. It should berelatively
simple.
Bob
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 5:54 PM, Alan wrote:
One of the reasons I chose this particular 424 hull back in 2003 when I
purchased the boat, was it had a new fuel tank, of which I was able to
verify by the Florida Tank Sales sticker on the tank. noting that itwas
installed in 2000.
Here it is 2014 and I believe I have a fuel tank leak.
I’ve looked at all the surfaces that are visible as that tank is
installed, which leaves just the top half all the way around. thefittings
are not leaking. I was able to determine over the weekend that it
leaks a
teaspoon per hour. A teaspoon per hour works out to be just about a
half a
cup per 24 hours. Not sure if it’s rotted from the inside or chafed
through from the outside.
I have a cookie sheet underneath the tank to collect the oil to keep it
out of the bilge, along with absorbent towels so it’s manageable rightnow.
So it looks like I’ll have to pull the engine which doesn’t scare me. I
had it out a couple years ago on my trip down south. Last time it tookfour
hours of my time and 30 minutes of yard time to lift the engine out.
What scares me now is how the heck do I get that tank out. as inwrestling
that thing out with the intention of putting the tank back in, as in
not
destroying it on the way out.
Comments?
Repowering at this time is not a discussion. at Kodak we used to call
that “scope creep”Alan
Sent from my iPhone
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