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    • #66875
      unabated
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      I need to replace some of the hose for the deck
      drains.
      Specificly the one that goes right through the middle
      of the galley storage area and the one on the opposite
      side in the head.
      What do you all think is a good hose. I am trying to
      stay away from that really heavy black hose.
      alan

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    • #69269
      madsailor
      Moderator

      I have the white hose that is also used for the head. It's easy to keep clean and it looks good in the lockers.

      Bob

      On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 6:55 AM, alan P < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      I need to replace some of the hose for the deck
      drains.
      Specificly the one that goes right through the middle
      of the galley storage area and the one on the opposite
      side in the head.
      What do you all think is a good hose. I am trying to
      stay away from that really heavy black hose.
      alan

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    • #69268
      unabated
      Participant

      Did you have a problem geting that hose on? Replace
      the deck fiting also?
      I was looking at the series 148 hose from Trident….
      Looks to be a 3 1/2 bucks a foot at WasteMarine which
      means I can probably get it at 1/2 that price
      elsewhere.

      — Robert Fine <> wrote:

      I have the white hose that is also used for the
      head. It’s easy to keep
      clean and it looks good in the lockers.

      Bob

      On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 6:55 AM, alan P
      <> wrote:

      I need to replace some of the hose for the deck
      drains.
      Specificly the one that goes right through the

      middle

      of the galley storage area and the one on the

      opposite

      side in the head.
      What do you all think is a good hose. I am trying

      to

      stay away from that really heavy black hose.
      alan

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    • #69271
      Chuck Ruble
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      Alan, I used the white flex tubing also, not the odor resistant stuff as there isn't a need and it's about $10 a foot…
      If you have not done it already when you replace the hose to the above the waterline drains you should consider replacing the thru hull fittings. Over the years the originals become brittle from the UV and if struck could break. Additionally there is no backing behind them.
      I made up some donuts out of 1/4″ plywood and gave them a couple coats of epoxy. They seat between the hull and the thru hull nut spreading out the load. If I did it again I would have contoured the rings more to the hull shape before applying the epoxy.

      Lastly, a propane torch or a heat gun used to gently warm the hose ends makes the hose much easier to get onto a barb fitting.

      Chuck

      On 3/24/08, alan P < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      I need to replace some of the hose for the deck
      drains.

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    • #69270
      unabated
      Participant

      Thanks Chuck,
      2 years ago I replaced/rebuilt most of the thru-hull
      fittings in the same manner as you. The last 4 I need
      to do are the scupper drains..
      thanks
      alan
      — Chuck Ruble <> wrote:

      Alan, I used the white flex tubing also, not the
      odor resistant stuff as
      there isn’t a need and it’s about $10 a foot…
      If you have not done it already when you replace the
      hose to the above the
      waterline drains you should consider replacing the
      thru hull fittings. Over
      the years the originals become brittle from the UV
      and if struck could
      break. Additionally there is no backing behind
      them.
      I made up some donuts out of 1/4″ plywood and gave
      them a couple coats of
      epoxy. They seat between the hull and the thru hull
      nut spreading out the
      load. If I did it again I would have contoured the
      rings more to the hull
      shape before applying the epoxy.

      Lastly, a propane torch or a heat gun used to gently
      warm the hose ends
      makes the hose much easier to get onto a barb
      fitting.

      Chuck

      On 3/24/08, alan P <> wrote:

      I need to replace some of the hose for the deck
      drains.

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    • #69273
      Anonymous

      Check out http://www.powertrackhose.com
      They have all kinds of marine hose. If they don’t show what you need,
      just call and ask.
      Great prices, great service.

      Pete

      alan P wrote:

      Thanks Chuck,
      2 years ago I replaced/rebuilt most of the thru-hull
      fittings in the same manner as you. The last 4 I need
      to do are the scupper drains..
      thanks
      alan
      — Chuck Ruble <> wrote:

      Alan, I used the white flex tubing also, not the
      odor resistant stuff as
      there isn’t a need and it’s about $10 a foot…
      If you have not done it already when you replace the
      hose to the above the
      waterline drains you should consider replacing the
      thru hull fittings. Over
      the years the originals become brittle from the UV
      and if struck could
      break. Additionally there is no backing behind
      them.
      I made up some donuts out of 1/4″ plywood and gave
      them a couple coats of
      epoxy. They seat between the hull and the thru hull
      nut spreading out the
      load. If I did it again I would have contoured the
      rings more to the hull
      shape before applying the epoxy.

      Lastly, a propane torch or a heat gun used to gently
      warm the hose ends
      makes the hose much easier to get onto a barb
      fitting.

      Chuck

      On 3/24/08, alan P <> wrote:

      I need to replace some of the hose for the deck
      drains.

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    • #69274
      madsailor
      Moderator

      All good advice and exactly what I'd tell you.

      Bob

      On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Pete Dubler < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      Check out http://www.powertrackhose.com
      They have all kinds of marine hose. If they don't show what you need,
      just call and ask.
      Great prices, great service.

      Pete

      alan P wrote:

      Thanks Chuck,
      2 years ago I replaced/rebuilt most of the thru-hull
      fittings in the same manner as you. The last 4 I need
      to do are the scupper drains..
      thanks
      alan
      — Chuck Ruble < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      Alan, I used the white flex tubing also, not the
      odor resistant stuff as
      there isn't a need and it's about $10 a foot…
      If you have not done it already when you replace the
      hose to the above the
      waterline drains you should consider replacing the
      thru hull fittings. Over
      the years the originals become brittle from the UV
      and if struck could
      break. Additionally there is no backing behind
      them.
      I made up some donuts out of 1/4″ plywood and gave
      them a couple coats of
      epoxy. They seat between the hull and the thru hull
      nut spreading out the
      load. If I did it again I would have contoured the
      rings more to the hull
      shape before applying the epoxy.

      Lastly, a propane torch or a heat gun used to gently
      warm the hose ends
      makes the hose much easier to get onto a barb
      fitting.

      Chuck

      On 3/24/08, alan P < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      I need to replace some of the hose for the deck
      drains.

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    • #69277
      RichCarter
      Participant

      Alan
      I used the white sanitation hose that West Marine sells.

      Removing the hose is a bitch. The worst one to reach is the aft deck drain on the port side. I came up with a method that seems to work pretty well. Cut the hose with a sawsall, as short as you can. Grab the steel reinforcing wire with a pair of vice-grip pliers and pull the wire out of the hose. It takes a good tug, but the wire should pull out. Then cut the rubber hose off with a sharp knife.

      If you missed the earlier thread, the hose that Pearson used needs to be replaced. The rubber gets brittle with age. Mine are all replaced now. Some of the hoses were pretty scary when I finally got around to removing them.


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    • #69278
      madsailor
      Moderator

      I would think the aft deck drain on the Starboard side is worse – it's behind all the wiring and stuff – the port one I can climb into the port locker to do.

      Bob

      On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 10:37 AM, < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      Quote:
      Alan
      I used the white sanitation hose that West Marine sells.

      Removing the hose is a bitch. The worst one to reach is the aft deck drain on the port side. I came up with a method that seems to work pretty well. Cut the hose with a sawsall, as short as you can. Grab the steel reinforcing wire with a pair of vice-grip pliers and pull the wire out of the hose. It takes a good tug, but the wire should pull out. Then cut the rubber hose off with a sharp knife.

      If you missed the earlier thread, the hose that Pearson used needs to be replaced. The rubber gets brittle with age. Mine are all replaced now. Some of the hoses were pretty scary when I finally got around to removing them.


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    • #69275
      RichCarter
      Participant

      It depends on your layout. In my boat, access to the deck drain is in the far aft corner of a locker over the aft bunk. It is very difficult to reach.


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    • #69276
      unabated
      Participant

      Mine is back there also. I was looking at it this
      weekend. I am thinking upscrewing the cabinets maybe
      the fastest way to do the best job.
      a
      — wrote:

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      It depends on your layout. In my boat, access to
      the deck drain is in the far aft corner of a locker
      over the aft bunk. It is very difficult to reach.


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    • #69280
      RichCarter
      Participant

      Alan
      If you pull the wire out as I suggest, you’ll find it pretty easy to remove the hose. The hose is so old that the wire will pull right out. That just leaves a soft piece of rubber around the barb that’s easy to cut. I don’t think you need to take the cabinets down.


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    • #69281
      Anonymous

      Alan,
      I replaced all of mine with the white sanitation hose.. (not the most expensive type)
      Rick
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      On 3/24/08, alan P < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      I need to replace some of the hose for the deck
      drains.
      Specificly the one that goes right through the middle
      of the galley storage area and the one on the opposite
      side in the head.
      What do you all think is a good hose. I am trying to
      stay away from that really heavy black hose.
      alan

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    • #69282
      Anonymous

      Is the 1 1/2 in. sanitation hose at all flexible? I am afraid it may be too rigid to get over the fittings–or do you have to heat it before each install ?

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    • #69284
      madsailor
      Moderator

      The easiest way to put it on is to wipe a little vaseline on the inside, heat it up, slide it on. It takes a little practice to get the heating even and not too hot so that the hose doesn't wrinkle, but it's not hard. Two clamps and you're good to go.

      Bob

      On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 5:36 PM, Rodd Leeds < ([email][/email])> wrote:

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      Is the 1 1/2 in. sanitation hose at all flexible? I am afraid it may be too rigid to get over the fittings–or do you have to heat it before each install ?

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    • #69287
      unabated
      Participant

      The deck drain hose is 1-1/2 right? Before I order
      25 feet of this stuff….
      alan

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    • #69288
      Paul Lefebvre
      Participant

      Hi Alan:

      I just climbed on the boat (only -11C on it this morning) and my 2 mid
      drains (through the galley and head) are both clearly marked 1 1/2″. The aft
      ones appear to be the same size, based on the identical OD.

      Paul


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    • #69289
      RichCarter
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      Bob
      I might suggest dish soap and water instead of a petroleum product. It works as well and eventually dries up so the hose will be less likely to slip off.


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    • #69290
      unabated
      Participant

      Yikes thats cold…..It was that cold this weekend
      inside the boat …..Frosty to say the least….
      Thanks for taking the time to check for me….
      alan

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    • #69291
      madsailor
      Moderator

      I concur – 1 – 1/2″. Also, dish soap is ok, as well, except it smells bad when heated. With dual clamps, it won't slip off.

      Bob

      On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 10:19 AM, alan P < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      Yikes thats cold…..It was that cold this weekend
      inside the boat …..Frosty to say the least….
      Thanks for taking the time to check for me….
      alan

      — Paul Lefebvre < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      Hi Alan:

      I just climbed on the boat (only -11C on it this
      morning) and my 2 mid
      drains (through the galley and head) are both
      clearly marked 1 1/2″. The aft
      ones appear to be the same size, based on the
      identical OD.

      Paul


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