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Hi All!
Well, I’ve sold my Monitor wind vane (thanks to Patrick I got a great
price), and have ordered and received my davits and solar panel.Here’s my question – how far apart should the davits be, or, where have you
put yours with respect either to the center of the stern rail or the
uprights? Do you also have a stern ladder?Thanks for any info you can provide.
By the way, the best deal I could get for the davits were from Martek in
Florida where their davits with the bottom fitting and backing plates and
rail mounting hardware were $1098 (1.25″ tubing, 300lb rating for each arm)
– they provided free shipping for products over $1000 (saving $79) plus $100
off so that the total price was $998. I got the lifting gear from Garhauer
for $350 because it’s prettier than the Ronstan stuff Martek and comes with
everything (Martek charges for the blocks – $200, lines $150, and rail
mounted cam cleats $90). Garhauer provides the whole six part tackle with
the rail mounted cam cleats.I purchased the solar panel, a 12V, 135 watt Kyocera with shipping was $470
from Northern Arizona Wind & Sun. Unbelievable how much solar panels have
come down!Although Martek supplies cross members (stabilizer bars), I purchased
fittings from Marine Parts Depot who supplies good SS fittings at very low
prices, and I’ll get the tubing from the metals place, Vulcan Metals, near
me, where you purchase metal by the pound. Very reasonable.I’ll be providing pictures as the project continues.
Thanks for any measurements you can provide!
Bob
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Bob,
I can’t tell exactly where to put the davits. My PO had a larger dinghy so he placed the davits farther apart. I have a smaller dinghy (10.3.) I can tell you that it does not work too well having the arms far apart when you have a smaller dinghy. So, I guess it would depend on the size of your dinghy and where you intend to lift it from that will determine the distance apart.
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Hi Alan,
Naturally, you’re correct. I should mention I have a 10.5′ dinghy.
Bob
On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 8:31 AM, Alan wrote:
Quote:Bob,
I can’t tell exactly where to put the davits. My PO had a larger dinghy so
he placed the davits farther apart. I have a smaller dinghy (10.3.) I can
tell you that it does not work too well having the arms far apart when you
have a smaller dinghy. So, I guess it would depend on the size of your
dinghy and where you intend to lift it from that will determine the distance
apart.
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I mounted mine online with the uprights of the rear rail. Also used marine parts depot for cross bar hardware. I ran horizontal bars from the davits to the uprights. And cross braced them to the aft rail.
Mounted two crossbars for my panels (I opted for 2 keroceya 54watt panels.
I do have a center mounted stern ladder and have clearance to deploy and retrieve it. When dingy is in davits it dies not chafe on the ladder.
My dingy is a 9’8″ inflatable. I also had relocate my stern light to the outermost cross brace as it was totally blocked by adding all the stuff.
Would post pics but am on the road next ten days.Eric Lorentzon
EFI Sales Development Manager
412.352.1941
Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 5, 2011, at 6:10 AM, Robert Fine wrote:
Hi All!
Well, I’ve sold my Monitor wind vane (thanks to Patrick I got a great
price), and have ordered and received my davits and solar panel.Here’s my question – how far apart should the davits be, or, where have you
put yours with respect either to the center of the stern rail or the
uprights? Do you also have a stern ladder?Thanks for any info you can provide.
By the way, the best deal I could get for the davits were from Martek in
Florida where their davits with the bottom fitting and backing plates and
rail mounting hardware were $1098 (1.25″ tubing, 300lb rating for each arm)
– they provided free shipping for products over $1000 (saving $79) plus $100
off so that the total price was $998. I got the lifting gear from Garhauer
for $350 because it’s prettier than the Ronstan stuff Martek and comes with
everything (Martek charges for the blocks – $200, lines $150, and rail
mounted cam cleats $90). Garhauer provides the whole six part tackle with
the rail mounted cam cleats.I purchased the solar panel, a 12V, 135 watt Kyocera with shipping was $470
from Northern Arizona Wind & Sun. Unbelievable how much solar panels have
come down!Although Martek supplies cross members (stabilizer bars), I purchased
fittings from Marine Parts Depot who supplies good SS fittings at very low
prices, and I’ll get the tubing from the metals place, Vulcan Metals, near
me, where you purchase metal by the pound. Very reasonable.I’ll be providing pictures as the project continues.
Thanks for any measurements you can provide!
Bob
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s/v Pelican
Pearson 424 Hull #8
http://thesailinglife.blogspot.com
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Hi Eric, that sounds pretty much my idea. I don’t think the difference in
dinghy length will be too much.What stern ladder do you have, and can you use it with the dingy raised?
Bob
On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 9:27 AM, S V Navasana wrote:
I mounted mine online with the uprights of the rear rail. Also used marine
parts depot for cross bar hardware. I ran horizontal bars from the davits to
the uprights. And cross braced them to the aft rail.
Mounted two crossbars for my panels (I opted for 2 keroceya 54watt panels.
I do have a center mounted stern ladder and have clearance to deploy and
retrieve it. When dingy is in davits it dies not chafe on the ladder.
My dingy is a 9’8″ inflatable. I also had relocate my stern light to the
outermost cross brace as it was totally blocked by adding all the stuff.
Would post pics but am on the road next ten days.Eric Lorentzon
EFI Sales Development Manager
412.352.1941
Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 5, 2011, at 6:10 AM, Robert Fine wrote:
Hi All!
Well, I’ve sold my Monitor wind vane (thanks to Patrick I got a great
price), and have ordered and received my davits and solar panel.Here’s my question – how far apart should the davits be, or, where have
you
put yours with respect either to the center of the stern rail or the
uprights? Do you also have a stern ladder?Thanks for any info you can provide.
By the way, the best deal I could get for the davits were from Martek in
Florida where their davits with the bottom fitting and backing plates and
rail mounting hardware were $1098 (1.25″ tubing, 300lb rating for eacharm)
– they provided free shipping for products over $1000 (saving $79) plus
$100
off so that the total price was $998. I got the lifting gear from
Garhauer
for $350 because it’s prettier than the Ronstan stuff Martek and comes
with
everything (Martek charges for the blocks – $200, lines $150, and rail
mounted cam cleats $90). Garhauer provides the whole six part tacklewith
the rail mounted cam cleats.
I purchased the solar panel, a 12V, 135 watt Kyocera with shipping was
$470
from Northern Arizona Wind & Sun. Unbelievable how much solar panels
have
come down!
Although Martek supplies cross members (stabilizer bars), I purchased
fittings from Marine Parts Depot who supplies good SS fittings at verylow
prices, and I’ll get the tubing from the metals place, Vulcan Metals,
near
me, where you purchase metal by the pound. Very reasonable.
I’ll be providing pictures as the project continues.
Thanks for any measurements you can provide!
Bob
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s/v Pelican
Pearson 424 Hull #8
http://thesailinglife.blogspot.com
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Here is one picture I have of my davit system integrated with my solar panels. I
hope this is useful.
cheers,
Joe
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Hi Joe,
Thanks! That’s an interesting arrangement for your radar – if it’s your
radar I’m looking at. Off the starboard side abeam of the mizzen mast?Bob
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Quote:Here is one picture I have of my davit system integrated with my solar
panels. I
hope this is useful.
cheers,
Joe
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Hi Bob,
My Pearson424 does not have a mizzen mast..long gone. The radar is atop a pole
which is part of the solar panel/davit system. It is located riight on the
transom corner. There is a twin on the port side which is supports the wind
generator.Joe,
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Now that I examine it more closely, I see that – I thought the port pole was
the mizzen.My bad.
Bob
On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Joseph Steiner wrote:
Quote:Hi Bob,My Pearson424 does not have a mizzen mast..long gone. The radar is atop a
pole
which is part of the solar panel/davit system. It is located riight on the
transom corner. There is a twin on the port side which is supports the wind
generator.Joe,
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you can see Silver Heel’s setup here:
http://selfsteer.com/boats/view.php?boatTypeID=1650-p
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On Mar 5, 2011, at 5:10, Robert Fine wrote:
Hi All!
Well, I’ve sold my Monitor wind vane (thanks to Patrick I got a great
price), and have ordered and received my davits and solar panel.Here’s my question – how far apart should the davits be, or, where have you
put yours with respect either to the center of the stern rail or the
uprights? Do you also have a stern ladder?Thanks for any info you can provide.
By the way, the best deal I could get for the davits were from Martek in
Florida where their davits with the bottom fitting and backing plates and
rail mounting hardware were $1098 (1.25″ tubing, 300lb rating for each arm)
– they provided free shipping for products over $1000 (saving $79) plus $100
off so that the total price was $998. I got the lifting gear from Garhauer
for $350 because it’s prettier than the Ronstan stuff Martek and comes with
everything (Martek charges for the blocks – $200, lines $150, and rail
mounted cam cleats $90). Garhauer provides the whole six part tackle with
the rail mounted cam cleats.I purchased the solar panel, a 12V, 135 watt Kyocera with shipping was $470
from Northern Arizona Wind & Sun. Unbelievable how much solar panels have
come down!Although Martek supplies cross members (stabilizer bars), I purchased
fittings from Marine Parts Depot who supplies good SS fittings at very low
prices, and I’ll get the tubing from the metals place, Vulcan Metals, near
me, where you purchase metal by the pound. Very reasonable.I’ll be providing pictures as the project continues.
Thanks for any measurements you can provide!
Bob
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s/v Pelican
Pearson 424 Hull #8
http://thesailinglife.blogspot.com
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Thanks Dawn and Patrick! -
Not sure the brand on my ladder it has three rungs and folds down.
In current configuration I can not deploy ladder with dink raised. Nor would it be easy to climb abord with dingy up. This is a safety concern I am working on. May relocate ladder to amidship or off to port in the stern instead if centered.Eric Lorentzon
EFI Sales Development Manager
412.352.1941
Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 5, 2011, at 7:44 AM, Robert Fine wrote:
Hi Eric, that sounds pretty much my idea. I don’t think the difference in
dinghy length will be too much.What stern ladder do you have, and can you use it with the dingy raised?
Bob
On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 9:27 AM, S V Navasana wrote:
I mounted mine online with the uprights of the rear rail. Also used marine
parts depot for cross bar hardware. I ran horizontal bars from the davits to
the uprights. And cross braced them to the aft rail.
Mounted two crossbars for my panels (I opted for 2 keroceya 54watt panels.
I do have a center mounted stern ladder and have clearance to deploy and
retrieve it. When dingy is in davits it dies not chafe on the ladder.
My dingy is a 9’8″ inflatable. I also had relocate my stern light to the
outermost cross brace as it was totally blocked by adding all the stuff.
Would post pics but am on the road next ten days.Eric Lorentzon
EFI Sales Development Manager
412.352.1941
Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 5, 2011, at 6:10 AM, Robert Fine wrote:
Hi All!
Well, I’ve sold my Monitor wind vane (thanks to Patrick I got a great
price), and have ordered and received my davits and solar panel.Here’s my question – how far apart should the davits be, or, where have
you
put yours with respect either to the center of the stern rail or the
uprights? Do you also have a stern ladder?Thanks for any info you can provide.
By the way, the best deal I could get for the davits were from Martek in
Florida where their davits with the bottom fitting and backing plates and
rail mounting hardware were $1098 (1.25″ tubing, 300lb rating for eacharm)
– they provided free shipping for products over $1000 (saving $79) plus
$100
off so that the total price was $998. I got the lifting gear from
Garhauer
for $350 because it’s prettier than the Ronstan stuff Martek and comes
with
everything (Martek charges for the blocks – $200, lines $150, and rail
mounted cam cleats $90). Garhauer provides the whole six part tacklewith
the rail mounted cam cleats.
I purchased the solar panel, a 12V, 135 watt Kyocera with shipping was
$470
from Northern Arizona Wind & Sun. Unbelievable how much solar panels
have
come down!
Although Martek supplies cross members (stabilizer bars), I purchased
fittings from Marine Parts Depot who supplies good SS fittings at verylow
prices, and I’ll get the tubing from the metals place, Vulcan Metals,
near
me, where you purchase metal by the pound. Very reasonable.
I’ll be providing pictures as the project continues.
Thanks for any measurements you can provide!
Bob
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s/v Pelican
Pearson 424 Hull #8
http://thesailinglife.blogspot.com
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@madsailor wrote:
Hi All!
Well, I’ve sold my Monitor wind vane (thanks to Patrick I got a great
price), and have ordered and received my davits and solar panel.Here’s my question – how far apart should the davits be, or, where have you
put yours with respect either to the center of the stern rail or the
uprights? Do you also have a stern ladder?Thanks for any info you can provide.
By the way, the best deal I could get for the davits were from Martek in
Florida where their davits with the bottom fitting and backing plates and
rail mounting hardware were $1098 (1.25″ tubing, 300lb rating for each arm)
– they provided free shipping for products over $1000 (saving $79) plus $100
off so that the total price was $998. I got the lifting gear from Garhauer
for $350 because it’s prettier than the Ronstan stuff Martek and comes with
everything (Martek charges for the blocks – $200, lines $150, and rail
mounted cam cleats $90). Garhauer provides the whole six part tackle with
the rail mounted cam cleats.I purchased the solar panels, a 12V, 135 watt Kyocera with shipping was $470
from Northern Arizona Wind & Sun. Unbelievable how much solar panels have
come down!Although Martek supplies cross members (stabilizer bars), I purchased
fittings from Marine Parts Depot who supplies good SS fittings at very low
prices, and I’ll get the tubing from the metals place, Vulcan Metals, near
me, where you purchase metal by the pound. Very reasonable.I’ll be providing pictures as the project continues.
Thanks for any measurements you can provide!
Bob
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s/v Pelican
Pearson 424 Hull #8
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Hey Bob, I can’t remember if your boat is a ketch or a sloop. When I met you in Beaufort, you were on a Krogan, if you remember. I am wondering how well the panels will work mounted on davits under the shade of the mizzen? I have heard that solar panels are very unforgiving to shade spots, so I have hesitated with adding panels. I was actually thinking of mounting them on the cockpit stanchions and having them fold out when I wanted them sunning, like little wings, though that probably wouldn’t work too well while sailing. I’ve seen that done on several boats and their skippers seem to like that. I know you well enough to know you researched it in depth before making your decisions. So what’s your logic.
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FWIW, I put my panel on the top of the doghouse. Never gets in the way,
doesn’t hit pier poles if on the outside, no dock rash likely.
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I have a sloop and made custom davits for my 424 sloop. The davits extend far enough out so that even if I had a mizzen, they would not be shaded. You really couldn’t put the solar panels in much closer without obstructing access over the transom.
The davits I had made weren’t expensive and are strong enough to hold a 400 lb dinghy. The Edson davits I had previously weren’t strong enough. The photos below don’t show the solar panels but you can see where they mount. I have four 1-amp panels mounted.
http://www.richardcarter.net/boat/davitSwimPlatform/davitsSwim2.html
Rich
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Mine is a ketch, and I have one panel on the dodger and one on the davits
(I want to add another there). Newer panels are designed better to not be
so sensitive to shadows. When I’m in port, the booms are tied off to the
side to allow full exposure. When sailing, they’re almost never centerline
and either the panels are in the sun or they’re not. I hardly ever use the
mainsail, especially if the wind is over about 15kts, so the boom will be
tied over to the side.I’ve found this arrangement to be the simplest. I thought about the wing
panels but decided against them for several reasons, the first of which is
that they are too exposed to docks, boats, and other sharp things. Another
reason is that they work well without me having to deploy them, and I don’t
have to maintain the hinge arrangement.I found that in the south, even during the winter, one 135 watt panel was
almost enough. Two is almost enough where I am in CT. Three will allow me
to use the water heater down south. And that’s my goal.Bob
On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 1:21 PM, cstewart wrote:
Hey Bob, I can’t remember if your boat is a ketch or a sloop. When I met
you in Beaufort, you were on a Krogan, if you remember. I am wondering how
well the panels will work mounted on davits under the shade of the mizzen?
I have heard that solar panels are very unforgiving to shade spots, so I
have hesitated with adding panels. I was actually thinking of mounting
them on the cockpit stanchions and having them fold out when I wanted them
sunning, like little wings, though that probably wouldn’t work too well
while sailing. I’ve seen that done on several boats and their skippers seem
to like that. I know you well enough to know you researched it in depth
before making your decisions. So what’s your logic.
"People cannot discover new lands until they have the courage to lose
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I have a big panel, 185W, I think, on a davits
crossbar. So the panel pivots on one axis, fore & aft,
which makes a huge difference in output because panels
do their best with perpendicular sunlight. As for the
mizzen boom shadow, it’s usually a non-issue. I just
put it off to one side of the other with a preventer.
Under sail, of course, it’s all depending on conditions
and course direction. Bottom line, my panel provides
more recharging power overall than the wind generator,
even in the trade winds.Tor
Silverheels, P-424 #17
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