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Today I got up my courage and cut the opening and test fitted the access
hatch for the space behind the shower wall. WOW! what a lot of space.
Question for those that have done this: How have you organized this
space? Shelves, bins/baskets? It is too deep to just start putting
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We live on our boat and we use that space to store all of the paper products we use. I used mesh fabric and sewed a loop on each end. Then I inserted a piece of 1 X 1 oak through each loop and hung the 1 X 1s on brackets I made, one on the hull side and the other on the shower stall side. The paper stays dry and finding what we need is easy.
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I put in a wooden floor, painted it all gloss white, and use clip-close
large and medium containers to hold linens back there. Keeps them fresh
in the containers with a dryer sheet in each one. The combination of
the sizes of the containers allows one to remove two of the small ones
and then shift and move the larger ones to get any one of them out
without having to remove them all. Kinda like one of those old letter
tile puzzles.Pete
On 8/11/2011 7:51 PM, Dale L wrote:
Today I got up my courage and cut the opening and test fitted the
access hatch for the space behind the shower wall. WOW! what a lot of
space. Question for those that have done this: How have you organized
this space? Shelves, bins/baskets? It is too deep to just start
putting things in there._______________________________________________
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Dawn put in two shelves and then used bins fro storables to store all manner
of goodness in there. We’ll have pics and a blog post at some point I’m
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s/v Deep Playa | Pearson 424 Hull #152 | http://www.DeepPlaya.com | @DeepPlayaOn Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 6:51 PM, Dale L wrote:
Today I got up my courage and cut the opening and test fitted the access
hatch for the space behind the shower wall. WOW! what a lot of space.
Question for those that have done this: How have you organized this space?
Shelves, bins/baskets? It is too deep to just start putting things in
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I glassed in a shelf down low with the intention of putting the shower sump pump there. I then put in a higher wooden shelf and painted the whole thing on the inside with bilge-coat. I was unable to route the sump hose into the new space however and ended up putting the sump pump under the galley sink near the freshwater pump. The sump pump had been mounted in the bilge previously and I always had trouble with corrosion from the damp air. I have no idea what I’ll put in the area that was supposed to be for the sump pump.
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A long time ago John Stevenson and I had a discussion about the space –
about how we had laid out the door, marked with extreme care, cut the
fiberglass and watched, moderately horrified as the cutout went skittering
down below the seat area never to be seen again.You may ask yourself, “What’s the point of this story?” and I will happily
elucidate.I thought to myself that if the area below the seat was large enough to
swallow a rather big piece of fiberglass it is large enough to be stowage.
So I put a 6″ inspection plate which fits (just) on the shower stall face of
the seat. There is quite a bit of room in there, too, which is inaccessible
when reaching from the top. Also, if you do lose something from the top you
can get it back out by reaching through that plate.I use those vacuum space saver bags to put spare blankets, sheets, towels
and so forth more or less just heaped in the space. I hardly ever go in
there so organization is not a big issue. I haven’t stowed anything under
the seat yet. But I still have empty drawers in the v-berth…Bob
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 8:54 AM, wrote:
Quote:I glassed in a shelf down low with the intention of putting the shower sump
pump there. I then put in a higher wooden shelf and painted the whole thing
on the inside with bilge-coat. I was unable to route the sump hose into the
new space however and ended up putting the sump pump under the galley sink
near the freshwater pump. The sump pump had been mounted in the bilge
previously and I always had trouble with corrosion from the damp air. I
have no idea what I’ll put in the area that was supposed to be for the sump
pump.Rich
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Like Bob, I haven’t put in any shelves just use those vacuum bags and small
duffel bags to hold linens and towels.
Unlike Bob, I haven’t put in the access ports on the bottom of the seat. So
my cutout is still sitting somewhere down there.
Having the hatch in the shower stall also made it easy to install a standard
household shower mixer.Regards,
John Stevenson
http://www.svsarah.comOn Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 9:03 AM, Robert Fine wrote:
A long time ago John Stevenson and I had a discussion about the space –
about how we had laid out the door, marked with extreme care, cut the
fiberglass and watched, moderately horrified as the cutout went skittering
down below the seat area never to be seen again.You may ask yourself, “What’s the point of this story?” and I will happily
elucidate.I thought to myself that if the area below the seat was large enough to
swallow a rather big piece of fiberglass it is large enough to be stowage.
So I put a 6″ inspection plate which fits (just) on the shower stall face
of
the seat. There is quite a bit of room in there, too, which is
inaccessible
when reaching from the top. Also, if you do lose something from the top
you
can get it back out by reaching through that plate.I use those vacuum space saver bags to put spare blankets, sheets, towels
and so forth more or less just heaped in the space. I hardly ever go in
there so organization is not a big issue. I haven’t stowed anything under
the seat yet. But I still have empty drawers in the v-berth…Bob
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 8:54 AM, wrote:
I glassed in a shelf down low with the intention of putting the shower
sump
pump there. I then put in a higher wooden shelf and painted the whole
thing
on the inside with bilge-coat. I was unable to route the sump hose into
the
new space however and ended up putting the sump pump under the galley
sink
near the freshwater pump. The sump pump had been mounted in the bilge
previously and I always had trouble with corrosion from the damp air. I
have no idea what I’ll put in the area that was supposed to be for thesump
Quote:pump.Rich
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Most in this group have been smarter than I about utilizing that space,
but it’s not necessarily too deep to just start putting things in there.
Until I get around to building in shelves (it’s on one of my to-do lists
somewhere), I store bulky stuff in that locker, mostly snorkel and scuba
gear (not including air tanks) in a couple of large mesh bags. It’s
convenient because I usually rinse & dry dive gear in the shower pan
before putting it away.Tor
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I read with interest how, on installing a hatch in the shower, the number of folk who dropped the cut-out of the panel behind the shower – never to be seen again…..
This weekend I decided to replace the shower mixer and add a hatch in the shower. Whilst cutting the hole I lost a few jigsaw blades – never to be seen again.
I cut the hole, and was extremely proud that I was able to secure the cut-out before it disappeared.Fortunately I had chosen a large hatch, and was able to work behind the shower with relative ease. During the replacement of the mixer, and as I was finishing up, my head knocked the side of the hatch and my spectacles fell into the void behind the shower!
Now was the time to find where “never to be found again” actually is.
Dropped a flashlight into the void, only to find that there was no light beam in the bilges! The reality is that there is a plywood base under the shower pan that separates the shower base and the bilge. It is within that space that my glasses lay.Tried a vacuum cleaner, but to no avail – just dust. I was now in a panic as this mysterious void had gobbled up jigsaw blades, and now my glasses!
To cut a long story short, I probed with a piece of hose and eventually hooked the glasses!
Much relief.
The hatch is great, and the new mixer works a treat!
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As a matter of fact, I added a 6″ round inspection port low and in the
front of the seat so I could get in there. Problem solved!Bob
I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
On Dec 16, 2012 2:24 PM, “Miss Kathleen” wrote:I read with interest how, on installing a hatch in the shower, the number
of folk who dropped the cut-out of the panel behind the shower – never to
be seen again…..This weekend I decided to replace the shower mixer and add a hatch in the
shower. Whilst cutting the hole I lost a few jigsaw blades – never to be
seen again.
I cut the hole, and was extremely proud that I was able to secure the
cut-out before it disappeared.Fortunately I had chosen a large hatch, and was able to work behind the
shower with relative ease. During the replacement of the mixer, and as I
was finishing up, my head knocked the side of the hatch and my spectacles
fell into the void behind the shower!Now was the time to find where “never to be found again” actually is.
Dropped a flashlight into the void, only to find that there was no light
beam in the bilges! The reality is that there is a plywood base under the
shower pan that separates the shower base and the bilge. It is within that
space that my glasses lay.Tried a vacuum cleaner, but to no avail – just dust. I was now in a panic
as this mysterious void had gobbled up jigsaw blades, and now my glasses!To cut a long story short, I probed with a piece of hose and eventually
hooked the glasses!Much relief.
The hatch is great, and the new mixer works a treat!
Dennis
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What did you lose that was so important for you to come up with a
solution? A 3K gold watch or something?– pat
Robert Fine wrote, On 12/16/12 1:26 PM:
As a matter of fact, I added a 6″ round inspection port low and in the
front of the seat so I could get in there. Problem solved!Bob
I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
On Dec 16, 2012 2:24 PM, “Miss Kathleen” wrote:I read with interest how, on installing a hatch in the shower, the number
of folk who dropped the cut-out of the panel behind the shower – never to
be seen again…..This weekend I decided to replace the shower mixer and add a hatch in the
shower. Whilst cutting the hole I lost a few jigsaw blades – never to be
seen again.
I cut the hole, and was extremely proud that I was able to secure the
cut-out before it disappeared.Fortunately I had chosen a large hatch, and was able to work behind the
shower with relative ease. During the replacement of the mixer, and as I
was finishing up, my head knocked the side of the hatch and my spectacles
fell into the void behind the shower!Now was the time to find where “never to be found again” actually is.
Dropped a flashlight into the void, only to find that there was no light
beam in the bilges! The reality is that there is a plywood base under the
shower pan that separates the shower base and the bilge. It is within that
space that my glasses lay.Tried a vacuum cleaner, but to no avail – just dust. I was now in a panic
as this mysterious void had gobbled up jigsaw blades, and now my glasses!To cut a long story short, I probed with a piece of hose and eventually
hooked the glasses!Much relief.
The hatch is great, and the new mixer works a treat!
Dennis
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The cutout for the hatch for one thing, but I don’t like spaces I can’t get
to.I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
On Dec 16, 2012 2:29 PM, “pat noordsij” wrote:What did you lose that was so important for you to come up with a
solution? A 3K gold watch or something?– pat
Robert Fine wrote, On 12/16/12 1:26 PM:
As a matter of fact, I added a 6″ round inspection port low and in the
front of the seat so I could get in there. Problem solved!Bob
I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
On Dec 16, 2012 2:24 PM, “Miss Kathleen” wrote:I read with interest how, on installing a hatch in the shower, the number
of folk who dropped the cut-out of the panel behind the shower – never to
be seen again…..This weekend I decided to replace the shower mixer and add a hatch in the
shower. Whilst cutting the hole I lost a few jigsaw blades – never to be
seen again.
I cut the hole, and was extremely proud that I was able to secure the
cut-out before it disappeared.Fortunately I had chosen a large hatch, and was able to work behind the
shower with relative ease. During the replacement of the mixer, and as I
was finishing up, my head knocked the side of the hatch and my spectacles
fell into the void behind the shower!Now was the time to find where “never to be found again” actually is.
Dropped a flashlight into the void, only to find that there was no light
beam in the bilges! The reality is that there is a plywood base under the
shower pan that separates the shower base and the bilge. It is within
that
space that my glasses lay.Tried a vacuum cleaner, but to no avail – just dust. I was now in a panic
as this mysterious void had gobbled up jigsaw blades, and now my glasses!To cut a long story short, I probed with a piece of hose and eventually
hooked the glasses!Much relief.
The hatch is great, and the new mixer works a treat!
Dennis
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NIce fishing. I would have shaken the boat aggressively hoping the
jig saw blades would cut a hole in the plywood and release the lost
items to the bilge ;^)Pete
On 12/16/2012 12:24 PM, Miss Kathleen wrote:
I read with interest how, on installing a hatch in the shower, the number of folk who dropped the cut-out of the panel behind the shower – never to be seen again…..
This weekend I decided to replace the shower mixer and add a hatch in the shower. Whilst cutting the hole I lost a few jigsaw blades – never to be seen again.
I cut the hole, and was extremely proud that I was able to secure the cut-out before it disappeared.Fortunately I had chosen a large hatch, and was able to work behind the shower with relative ease. During the replacement of the mixer, and as I was finishing up, my head knocked the side of the hatch and my spectacles fell into the void behind the shower!
Now was the time to find where “never to be found again” actually is.
Dropped a flashlight into the void, only to find that there was no light beam in the bilges! The reality is that there is a plywood base under the shower pan that separates the shower base and the bilge. It is within that space that my glasses lay.Tried a vacuum cleaner, but to no avail – just dust. I was now in a panic as this mysterious void had gobbled up jigsaw blades, and now my glasses!
To cut a long story short, I probed with a piece of hose and eventually hooked the glasses!
Much relief.
The hatch is great, and the new mixer works a treat!
Dennis
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Guess I am going to have to find the blades as they had better not get up to mishief when bashing to weather!
The “fishing line” was a 25mm plastic pipe, just small enough to fit between the shower floor and ply base.
I think my next job will be to make a few more bilge hatches. I envy those yachts with full access to the bilges.
Dennis
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Check out my article on how to add access through the floorboards:
http://thesailinglife.blogspot.com/2008/11/there-is-never-enough-space.htmlBob
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Guess I am going to have to find the blades as they had better not get up
to mishief when bashing to weather!The “fishing line” was a 25mm plastic pipe, just small enough to fit
between the shower floor and ply base.I think my next job will be to make a few more bilge hatches. I envy those
yachts with full access to the bilges.Dennis
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The good need is that the blades asst probably able to be picked up with a magnet on the end of that tube. Â A for the stainless hardware I have dropped back there…extra ballast…
Sent from my Samsung smartphone on AT&TMiss Kathleen wrote:Guess I am going to have to find the blades as they had better not get up to mishief when bashing to weather!
The “fishing line” was a 25mm plastic pipe, just small enough to fit between the shower floor and ply base.
I think my next job will be to make a few more bilge hatches. I envy those yachts with full access to the bilges.
Dennis
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What a timely thread. I recently had to access that area to reseat the stanchion and lost a wrench in the black hole. I had heard about someone putting in a hatch so I was about to ask for suggestions. I didn’t realize that I was the only one who hasn’t made the cut yet.
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No problem at all. Depending on the size of the hatch you might have to trim the contact surface a bit if there is too much interference when closing.
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Also, the shower fiberglass is flexible enough to handle a fairly large
hatch- just stay away from the corners.Bob
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Steven Weinberg, Ph.D.
wrote:Quote:No problem at all. Depending on the size of the hatch you might have to
trim the contact surface a bit if there is too much interference when
closing.S
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I had a carpenter make a frame for the door unit that interfaced the flat door frame with the curved shower wall. No leaks and worth the pro touch for looks. I installed two shelves and we keep all our towels in there. Also upgraded the shower mixer as well as the hand held shower head. Mounted the wall fixture for affixing the hand held unit on the inboard corner.
Dan Kalinowski
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